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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 14, 2025, 03:11:16 AM »
No Bert Preast, you are badly misinformed. Orcs regularly use their strategic bombers to lob missiles at our cities and that is the main reason why their destruction was so widely celebrated in Ukraine. Every single one of those flyers destroyed = less civilian infra destroyed, less civilians dead and less misery all around.
Huilo tried to use mass conscripts in Autumn of 2022, only to have over 2 mils of his own potential cannon fodder flee the country in about three months. After that, he said that conscripting is over and they started recruiting mercenaries from all over the world and dishing out a rather large sums of money to potential killers. Moreover, they emptied prisons, labour camps and began very aggressive recruiting campaign internally. So the bottom line would be again "they would've if they could've", but last attempt at mass conscripting showed it will simply not work well and while it will produce some conscripts, it will deplete their labour force within 6-8 months to the point of their economy not being able to support itself. Even without mass conscripting, their labour force is struggling badly and a LOT of blue collar jobs are left unmanned simply because those who used to do them either died off due to old age or ditched it and signed up to be a mercenary.
Again, you are misinformed. Meat waves were re-invented in Bakhmut by Prigozhin and orcs have been using this tactic ever since. Yes, they use smaller groups due to drones, but those groups go forward pretty much non-stop and can not, I repeat, they CAN NOT go back. If they do, they are either shot by other orcs on the spot or given over to military police to be (sometimes publicly) tortured and humiliated before being sent ahead again. That is why we have a lot of POWs who quite deliberately abandoned their groups/posts and surrendered to UGF solders. As far as I know, there are so damn many of those, we even have formed at least 3 full fledged battalions out of those guys and they are kicking some serious ass as they got a very personal bone to pick with the rest of the orcish army. A lot more are refusing to be exchanged and choosing to wait it out as a POW, rather than be exchanged and be sent into another mean wave and become fertilizer.
I am not sure what you are talking about when you say "didn't have enough bodies to exchange the other day?". If you are referring to that comedy Medinksiy performed, well... It was just that - comedy and a bad one at that. No exchange of bodies were arranged and you cant do these things overnight even if you really, really want to. As far as I know, we never bother collecting dead orcs, as there just too many of them and since every single official offer to exchange the fallen was declined, no one ever saw a point in it. In early stages of the invasion, some localized exchanges did happen, but since late 2023, they stopped doing even that. At least as far as I know.
And again, no. This is not a civil war. This war is not remotely resembling a civil war now and never really did in the past. This war was initiated by orcs in Crimea by their regular troops, then they tried to start things all over the east and failed in every place except Donetsk and Luhansk. Their agitators were quite literally all over and quite a few of them were arrested or shot'n'killed in action in 2014. But even that didnt get them very far and the unrest was simmering down until they sent over Girkin with a group of terrorists who started to publicly kill people resisting their takeover of Slovyansk and its burbs. Ukraine was still in heavy turmoil after orc's invasion of Crimea and since no one really wanted a war with orcs, our parliament and its speaker (our then prez fled to russia already) government tried to do what they can to de-escalate the situation and talk to Huilo. Orcs werent interested in talks though, they were interested in taking over so they kept sending armed terrorists and only after we saw a large influx of mechanized armed orcs cross the border in the area of Khrustalnyi town, an anti-terrorist operation was announced. Thus, the war began. At first it was mostly orcish covert operations, sporadically flaring up into localized battles, but as Huilo finally realized that he and his orcs can not, under no circumstances regain control over Ukraine politically, he stared his full scale invasion in 2022.
Despite my best efforts, you are still not understanding whats at stake here. So i'll try once again (probably in vain, but I'll try) and call it a day. Bert Preast, as far as I know and as far as our family memory goes back. every single generation either fought against the orcs or were forced into military service by them to fight their wars for them against some people who did us nothing wrong. We had enough of this and we will not give in to their demands, not this time, not ever. Not again. The idea of them getting "really annoyed" would be downright funny, if it wouldnt be so damn sad. Thus far, they lost over 1 million in casualties (dead and wounded to the point of not being fit for service), most of their tanks, about half of their military air force (not the total number of everything have, counting only planes that were actually in "ready to fly" condition), thier oil industry is being under constant attack causing them stupendous economic losses and their Crimean fleet is either sunk or hiding in Novorossiysk and not participating in any action out of fear of being sunk. Friend, they are not just "really annoyed", they are badly hurt, bleeding and howl for our blood, destruction of out cities, death of resisting males and "re-education" of our children. They deny us our very existence and consider us defective russians that must be either fixed or exterminated. Given all that, ask yourself how much of a f*ck do we give about WW3, WW4 or WW1025. To us, its do or die already. Ask yourself at what point we'd stop after they blew up our Kakhovka Dam and killed in cold blood with floodwaters tens of thousands in their homes. Better question would be is ask yourself what we will NOT do if we are pushed against a wall and become really, truly desperate. Again - we will either resist and most of us will live, or give in and be exterminated as a nation and ethnic group. So in the end it boils down to this: help us if you can, fight us if you dare, or get out of the way. We will not surrender. You will either understand me, or you will not, but I tire of this conversation and have little interest in continuing it. Sapienti sat.
Huilo tried to use mass conscripts in Autumn of 2022, only to have over 2 mils of his own potential cannon fodder flee the country in about three months. After that, he said that conscripting is over and they started recruiting mercenaries from all over the world and dishing out a rather large sums of money to potential killers. Moreover, they emptied prisons, labour camps and began very aggressive recruiting campaign internally. So the bottom line would be again "they would've if they could've", but last attempt at mass conscripting showed it will simply not work well and while it will produce some conscripts, it will deplete their labour force within 6-8 months to the point of their economy not being able to support itself. Even without mass conscripting, their labour force is struggling badly and a LOT of blue collar jobs are left unmanned simply because those who used to do them either died off due to old age or ditched it and signed up to be a mercenary.
Again, you are misinformed. Meat waves were re-invented in Bakhmut by Prigozhin and orcs have been using this tactic ever since. Yes, they use smaller groups due to drones, but those groups go forward pretty much non-stop and can not, I repeat, they CAN NOT go back. If they do, they are either shot by other orcs on the spot or given over to military police to be (sometimes publicly) tortured and humiliated before being sent ahead again. That is why we have a lot of POWs who quite deliberately abandoned their groups/posts and surrendered to UGF solders. As far as I know, there are so damn many of those, we even have formed at least 3 full fledged battalions out of those guys and they are kicking some serious ass as they got a very personal bone to pick with the rest of the orcish army. A lot more are refusing to be exchanged and choosing to wait it out as a POW, rather than be exchanged and be sent into another mean wave and become fertilizer.
I am not sure what you are talking about when you say "didn't have enough bodies to exchange the other day?". If you are referring to that comedy Medinksiy performed, well... It was just that - comedy and a bad one at that. No exchange of bodies were arranged and you cant do these things overnight even if you really, really want to. As far as I know, we never bother collecting dead orcs, as there just too many of them and since every single official offer to exchange the fallen was declined, no one ever saw a point in it. In early stages of the invasion, some localized exchanges did happen, but since late 2023, they stopped doing even that. At least as far as I know.
And again, no. This is not a civil war. This war is not remotely resembling a civil war now and never really did in the past. This war was initiated by orcs in Crimea by their regular troops, then they tried to start things all over the east and failed in every place except Donetsk and Luhansk. Their agitators were quite literally all over and quite a few of them were arrested or shot'n'killed in action in 2014. But even that didnt get them very far and the unrest was simmering down until they sent over Girkin with a group of terrorists who started to publicly kill people resisting their takeover of Slovyansk and its burbs. Ukraine was still in heavy turmoil after orc's invasion of Crimea and since no one really wanted a war with orcs, our parliament and its speaker (our then prez fled to russia already) government tried to do what they can to de-escalate the situation and talk to Huilo. Orcs werent interested in talks though, they were interested in taking over so they kept sending armed terrorists and only after we saw a large influx of mechanized armed orcs cross the border in the area of Khrustalnyi town, an anti-terrorist operation was announced. Thus, the war began. At first it was mostly orcish covert operations, sporadically flaring up into localized battles, but as Huilo finally realized that he and his orcs can not, under no circumstances regain control over Ukraine politically, he stared his full scale invasion in 2022.
Despite my best efforts, you are still not understanding whats at stake here. So i'll try once again (probably in vain, but I'll try) and call it a day. Bert Preast, as far as I know and as far as our family memory goes back. every single generation either fought against the orcs or were forced into military service by them to fight their wars for them against some people who did us nothing wrong. We had enough of this and we will not give in to their demands, not this time, not ever. Not again. The idea of them getting "really annoyed" would be downright funny, if it wouldnt be so damn sad. Thus far, they lost over 1 million in casualties (dead and wounded to the point of not being fit for service), most of their tanks, about half of their military air force (not the total number of everything have, counting only planes that were actually in "ready to fly" condition), thier oil industry is being under constant attack causing them stupendous economic losses and their Crimean fleet is either sunk or hiding in Novorossiysk and not participating in any action out of fear of being sunk. Friend, they are not just "really annoyed", they are badly hurt, bleeding and howl for our blood, destruction of out cities, death of resisting males and "re-education" of our children. They deny us our very existence and consider us defective russians that must be either fixed or exterminated. Given all that, ask yourself how much of a f*ck do we give about WW3, WW4 or WW1025. To us, its do or die already. Ask yourself at what point we'd stop after they blew up our Kakhovka Dam and killed in cold blood with floodwaters tens of thousands in their homes. Better question would be is ask yourself what we will NOT do if we are pushed against a wall and become really, truly desperate. Again - we will either resist and most of us will live, or give in and be exterminated as a nation and ethnic group. So in the end it boils down to this: help us if you can, fight us if you dare, or get out of the way. We will not surrender. You will either understand me, or you will not, but I tire of this conversation and have little interest in continuing it. Sapienti sat.