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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 14, 2025, 03:11:16 AM »
No Bert Preast, you are badly misinformed. Orcs regularly use their strategic bombers to lob missiles at our cities and that is the main reason why their destruction was so widely celebrated in Ukraine. Every single one of those flyers destroyed = less civilian infra destroyed, less civilians dead and less misery all around.

Huilo tried to use mass conscripts in Autumn of 2022, only to have over 2 mils of his own potential cannon fodder flee the country in about three months. After that, he said that conscripting is over and they started recruiting mercenaries from all over the world and dishing out a rather large sums of money to potential killers. Moreover, they emptied prisons, labour camps and began very aggressive recruiting campaign internally. So the bottom line would be again "they would've if they could've", but last attempt at mass conscripting showed it will simply not work well and while it will produce some conscripts, it will deplete their labour force within 6-8 months to the point of their economy not being able to support itself. Even without mass conscripting, their labour force is struggling badly and a LOT of blue collar jobs are left unmanned simply because those who used to do them either died off due to old age or ditched it and signed up to be a mercenary.

Again, you are misinformed. Meat waves were re-invented in Bakhmut by Prigozhin and orcs have been using this tactic ever since. Yes, they use smaller groups due to drones, but those groups go forward pretty much non-stop and can not, I repeat, they CAN NOT go back. If they do, they are either shot by other orcs on the spot or given over to military police to be (sometimes publicly) tortured and humiliated before being sent ahead again. That is why we have a lot of POWs who quite deliberately abandoned their groups/posts and surrendered to UGF solders. As far as I know, there are so damn many of those, we even have formed at least 3 full fledged battalions out of those guys and they are kicking some serious ass as they got a very personal bone to pick with the rest of the orcish army. A lot more are refusing to be exchanged and choosing to wait it out as a POW, rather than be exchanged and be sent into another mean wave and become fertilizer.

I am not sure what you are talking about when you say "didn't have enough bodies to exchange the other day?". If you are referring to that comedy Medinksiy performed, well... It was just that - comedy and a bad one at that. No exchange of bodies were arranged and you cant do these things overnight even if you really, really want to. As far as I know, we never bother collecting dead orcs, as there just too many of them and since every single official offer to exchange the fallen was declined, no one ever saw a point in it. In early stages of the invasion, some localized exchanges did happen, but since late 2023, they stopped doing even that. At least as far as I know.

And again, no. This is not a civil war. This war is not remotely resembling a civil war now and never really did in the past. This war was initiated by orcs in Crimea by their regular troops, then they tried to start things all over the east and failed in every place except Donetsk and Luhansk. Their agitators were quite literally all over and quite a few of them were arrested or shot'n'killed in action in 2014. But even that didnt get them very far and the unrest was simmering down until they sent over Girkin with a group of terrorists who started to publicly kill people resisting their takeover of Slovyansk and its burbs. Ukraine was still in heavy turmoil after orc's invasion of Crimea and since no one really wanted a war with orcs, our parliament and its speaker (our then prez fled to russia already) government tried to do what they can to de-escalate the situation and talk to Huilo. Orcs werent interested in talks though, they were interested in taking over so they kept sending armed terrorists and only after we saw a large influx of mechanized armed orcs cross the border in the area of Khrustalnyi town, an anti-terrorist operation was announced. Thus, the war began. At first it was mostly orcish covert operations, sporadically flaring up into localized battles, but as Huilo finally realized that he and his orcs can not, under no circumstances regain control over Ukraine politically, he stared his full scale invasion in 2022.

Despite my best efforts, you are still not understanding whats at stake here. So i'll try once again (probably in vain, but I'll try) and call it a day. Bert Preast, as far as I know and as far as our family memory goes back. every single generation either fought against the orcs or were forced into military service by them to fight their wars for them against some people who did us nothing wrong. We had enough of this and we will not give in to their demands, not this time, not ever. Not again. The idea of them getting "really annoyed" would be downright funny, if it wouldnt be so damn sad. Thus far, they lost over 1 million in casualties (dead and wounded to the point of not being fit for service), most of their tanks, about half of their military air force (not the total number of everything have, counting only planes that were actually in "ready to fly" condition), thier oil industry is being under constant attack causing them stupendous economic losses and their Crimean fleet is either sunk or hiding in Novorossiysk and not participating in any action out of fear of being sunk. Friend, they are not just "really annoyed", they are badly hurt, bleeding and howl for our blood, destruction of out cities, death of resisting males and "re-education" of our children. They deny us our very existence and consider us defective russians that must be either fixed or exterminated. Given all that, ask yourself how much of a f*ck do we give about WW3, WW4 or WW1025. To us, its do or die already. Ask yourself at what point we'd stop after they blew up our Kakhovka Dam and killed in cold blood with floodwaters tens of thousands in their homes. Better question would be is ask yourself what we will NOT do if we are pushed against a wall and become really, truly desperate. Again - we will either resist and most of us will live, or give in and be exterminated as a nation and ethnic group. So in the end it boils down to this: help us if you can, fight us if you dare, or get out of the way. We will not surrender. You will either understand me, or you will not, but I tire of this conversation and have little interest in continuing it. Sapienti sat.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 12, 2025, 04:05:39 AM »
You severely overestimate their abilities and resources Bert Preast. In 2022, all of their advances were mechanized, fully supported from air and preceded with a wall of fire (prolonged artillery  shelling). Today, they attack using so called "meat waves", essentially only boots, with very limited or no armour support, no air support and wall of fire is a thing of the past. They are not either immortal nor their resources are limitless and we are clearly seeing it. While they did have huge stockpiles of USSR weapons and vehicles, those are virtually gone and while their ability to produce new stuff is not minimal, but again - rather limited. One thing they have in overabundance is meat and just like every other war in history the orcs participated, they try to drown us in their own blood.

They've tried using massive air raids during first months of the war, but after they lost a cartload of planes and pilots, they limited its use to long range bombing: mostly glide bombs from what was a very safe distance (and now that is finally changing), but even with using their limited, antiquated bomber fleets bombing us from a distance, they regularly keep losing planes that they have absolutely no way of replacing. To properly illustrate the point consider this - since collapse of URRR, they have not been able to produce ONE fully operational aircraft. Not a one. Be it a military one, or a civilian craft. They cant even reproduce AN-2 plane that first took to the skies in 1947. I think they managed to create one decent heli (need to check), but no planes, at least not to my knowledge. Keeping that in mind, do you really think that their air fleet is as large and scary as they claim? No, its not. Far from it. So to answer your initial statement about carpet bombing - they would've if they could've. But they simply cant. Oh and very recently quite a few of their flyers got all tangled up in a spiderweb :) They cant replace those planes too.

Again, no Bert Preast, this is not a civil war. In 2014, the war was triggered by their agents, with their weapons, under their flags. And the only thing that prevented Ukraine from re-establishing peace in 2015 was direct intervention of regular orcish troops that turned the tide of Debaltseve battle and forced us to fall back. Ever since then, it was us vs them, with poor civilians stuck in the middle of this. Overall, this is a very typical colonial war for them and a war of independence for us. I am not even sure how you can use this old propaganda prop after 2022, but oh well. You are of course entitled to your opinion.

"Partisan activity in the areas controlled by Russia is low because it's very dangerous" Indeed it is. Personally, given the nature of this war, I am not even sure what a partisan can do, aside from laser painting a target or passing on intelligence. And given the ever present surveillance drones, even that would be a major risk. But like I said, I dont think we can realistically say that the activity is either high or low. We simply dont know that.

We can exchange our opinions on Yugoslavia, but I am not sure how productive that will be. Balkans have been a boiling, roiling pot of explosive hate for almost 500 years, so I wouldnt even know where to start with that. That being said, after Tito's death, I think it was pretty damn clear to anyone that Yugoslavia will explode and disintegrate, but then again, hindsight is always 100%, eh? So I'd better say nothing. One this I WILL say though - I think that if ocrs stayed away from that region, the bloodshed might have never even started. Its just a maybe, but considering how much pain and suffering that war caused (and still causing) its one heavy maybe.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 12, 2025, 12:30:03 AM »
UFL as part of UGF, a medevac driver. Released after getting wounded and becoming unfit for duty. I'll keep my personal info quite vague - the city I live in has a large orcish population and I'd rather not wake up to find my house burning.

Oh it is a full scale invasion. If you recall what happened in 2022 you'll have your answer, you can still find those maps from 2022. In short, they tried to attack from ever side and got their arses handed over to them. Lost a crazy amount of equipment and considerable numbers of boots, most of the territory they managed to grab during initial push, regrouped, started mobilization to replenish their losses, refocused and resumed the invasion with everything they got, except for the nukes.

I know its not my place, but I'll say it nonetheless: Milosevic had to be stopped. I agree that they way it was done was very far from ideal, but he had to be stopped. Regardless whether you want it or not, you have my respect for standing up for what you thought was right. I sincerely hope you'll find your peace with your past.

I dont think we'll know what kind of resistance/partisan activities are there for as long as this war is going on. Keep in mind that eastern Ukraine is mostly as flat as a table, with very few places to hide, so the usual "hit and run" tactics would be virtually useless there. Plus modern day warfare is not really partisan-friendly. So pretty much only thing a partisan can do is sabotage and there is PLENTY of that. That being said, there is always something blowing up and orcish COs are being made into good russians on very regular basis. And that is what we know only from mass media or enraged local orcs themselves. How much of it is assisted, coordinated or even done by resistance we wouldnt know now (and maybe even ever) and I think that is how it should be. Still, you can look up marches in Kherson right after it was occupied with thousands upon thousands protesting against the invasion. Most of those people were quickly tracked down and killed/jailed, so while it was quite a patriotic spectacle, I wish they havent done that.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 11, 2025, 08:37:57 PM »
Oh thats quite alright, I have no illusions about my mental state. That being said, I wonder what you'd call them If you'd seen what they do to civilians, especially young women, or those dudes who actively refuse to cooperate with them. And when I say "seen it", I dont mean in a video. I mean seen it with your own eyes, sensed the smell of the bodies and tried to wash off the body fluids off your hands after handling something that was a human before being killed by these damned orcs. Yes, I wonder what name you'd come up with after that.

Sun Tzu is wonderful reading, but I am not worried about it. Like I said, before full scale orcish invasion, about 8 millions of Ukrainians fled eastern Ukraine and Crimea to other parts of the country. After the land is free from occupation, they will come home.

Oh and there was no referendum in Crimea. Without any warning and/or declaring war, first orcs invaded Crimea, blocked completely stunned and bamboozled local Ukrainian forces (we did not consider them our enemies before 2014 and no one really expected this, not even military), then their special forces units have taken by force the Crimean parliament, at the gun point gathered the MPs and other elected officials and staged their little farce. In short, they pretty much did the very same thing Hitler did in Austria 1938. Ever since 2014, Ukrainian nationals and Crimean Tatars/Qyrymli are being constantly harassed, arrested and kidnapped. Again, same thing like in Austria after Hitler's "referendum". So just like Austria, eventually Crimea will be liberated and things will go back to normal. Those who supported the orcs and have committed crimes will be legally proceeded and those who didnt care either way, will continue not to care.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 11, 2025, 12:44:32 AM »
Spain/Cataluna is of course not an exact parallel, because exact parallels do not exist.  I would like the Catalans to secede, because then Spain might have a proper government rather than one propped up by various communist separatists.  You may find you prefer how Ukraine is governed when the war ends, and you don't have to appease those who kept voting pro-Russian anymore.  Living in a country governed for and by the people who want to live there is, I think, better than living in a bigger country full of malcontents.

Your history lesson tells me nothing I didn't know, and I didn't go deep on it for a reason.  What matters is what the people of a region want now, not what went on there a century or more ago.  Crimea and Donbass do not wish to remain a part of Ukraine, and I doubt there is anything you can do now to change their minds.  Aside from ethnically cleansing or killing them, of course.

Congratulations on the audacious if unwise drone strikes on the Russian airfields the other day, by the way.  Superbly executed.  You're still going to lose, though.

Thats quite unfortunate, but also, quite predictable. Still, I've tried to explain the reasons behind this invasion the best I could. Sapienti sat.

No Bert Preast, we are not going to lose, because its not a game for us. This is not something we can either win or lose at. We will either exist as a nation and ethnics group, or be destroyed and I assure you, that we have no intentions of being destroyed. Moreover, if you think that the fact that orcs have nukes and Ukraine does not will stop us from resisting - you are wrong. The choice is really quite simple for us: resist and maybe live, or surrender and with 100% certainty follow the path of those Ukrainian nationals from Izium, Kherson, Bucha, Irpin, Mariupol and countless smaller villages and towns that orcs managed to occupy and that is to end up in a shallow ditch and have your kids sent to "re-education" camps. No thank you.

Now, lets talk about "That's a fair point, but it changes nothing.  Historic transfers of populations have happened, and you either reverse them or you deal with the situation as it exists now." I assure you, the situation will be dealt with and after the orcs are beaten back, those who actively or passively supported the invaders will leave with then, those who didnt care either will, will continue not to care and about 8 millions of displaced Ukrainian nationals will come back to their homes in eastern Ukraine and Crimea. I think, tolerance to anything orcish with be virtually non-existent, so within 10-15 years, anyone left with any pro-orcish sentiment will either leave or die off due to their very advanced age.

Still, if you strongly support any community, whatever their reason may be, to declare themselves independent, even if they displaced the native population by either mass immigration, genocide or forced deportation - go ahead and allow those large pockets of Pakistani and Indian nationals in UK to separate and declare themselves to be parts of their mother nations. I am sure UK as a whole and you personally would only support that. Right?

Note: Nothing against either Pakistani or Indian nationals, just using you guys as an example here. I know you guys are more civilized and cultured (very different from Europeans, but culture is culture) than orcs and would never even dream of doing something like that.

P.S. Orcs, dont waste your breath. The time for talks and arguments between us have passed. I have only one thing to tell you - come and die or shut your yap trap and hide. We will kill every single one of your invading bastards.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: June 01, 2025, 06:22:04 PM »
Thats fine Bert Preast, its only natural to draw parallels to something local, but those parallels are not correct and I'll try to explain the situation. Its pretty complex, so please bear with me.

Ukraine has not adopted Spanish method with Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. That statement is grossly incorrect so lets break it down. Firstly, lets take Crimea. Its native population is not either russian, nor Ukrainian, its Crimean Tatars or Qyrymli as they call themselves. They are a unique, turkic speaking peoples that live on the peninsula for a millennia and have a very interesting geneses, including Greek, Italian, Kipchak, proto-Slavic and various turkic ethnicities. Like I said, these guys go back into the mists of time, but one thing of note that is relevant is their Giray dynasty. You can read more on this here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Khanate
To keep this relatively short, Ill just say that Girays were owners of what is now russia. Their tsars paid them yearly taxes, provided conscripts when asked and in short, russian tsardom was a vassal of Giray's Crimea as early beginning of 18th century. After collapse of remnants of Golden Horde's legacy, Peter 1 (also known as the blood-drinker by others and "great" by russians) was able to defeat them and from then onward, Qyrymli peoples were under constant genocide efforts of different magnitude, culminating in deportation of their full nation from their home and ancestral lands all over the Red Empire. Under the theat of death, they were forbidden to come back home. Only after Ukraine became an independent state, what was left of Qyrymli peoples came back home. You can read more on this here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars

After the deportation, regular russians were imported in Qyrymli's (and other undesirable's) houses and we ended up having the situation where "most of the people speak Russian, vote Russian, and are Orthodox Christians". and even then, they never really voted russian. In Crimea, a few pro-russian political parties did exist, but they never got anything more than a few % points during all recorded history. Here is an example of that from 2012. The article is quite old and available only in orcish, but you can google translate it into English if you'd like to read it.
https://daily.rbc.ua/rus/show/vybory-2012-v-krymu-minimum-shansov-dazhe-dlya-prorossiyskih-17102012131000
The 1995 incident you mention below is very interesting indeed. Meshkov's attempted coup was just one of many attempts by orcish FSB to take control of the peninsula using political or/or other means. Here is another interesting case you might want to read and I can think of plenty more smaller, but similar cases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Tuzla_Island_conflict

Anyway, long story short, if anyone has any moral rights to Crimea, its Qyrymli's people. Every major city,even mountain and every river has a name in their language, they know that land and they have no other home. Crimea was theirs for centuries before orcs came and will it be theirs again, after orcs are gone and forgotten. Today however, their population is tragically small and even if they wanted, they can not (and could not, prior to 2014) form a state. Practically from day one of Ukraine's independence, they are represented in Ukrainian parliament, have their cultural and ethnic rights protected and have been one of the strongest opposition of orcish invasion politically and after 2014, military. If in future, their numbers grow to the point of them being able to form and maintain a state, while I do not speak for Ukraine, me personally, and many many other Ukrainians would support them in that.

Donbass and broadly speaking Eastern parts of Ukraine are very different from Crimea in many aspects, although some things are the same. Even today, if one is to travel outside of major cities into the countryside, the claim that they speak orcish becomes clearly wrong. At worst, they speak this "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surzhyk", and in many cases, you'll hear decent Ukrainian in most of the villages/smaller cities. The reason for that is twofold. First is long standing and systemic suppression of Ukrainian language by the orcs. You can read more on this here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Ukrainian_language_suppression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Ukraine

Second is the hunger of 1932-33. You can read more on this here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

While wiki is not being decisive on this topic, I have relatives who lived through this and at least to me, the situation is clear that this was indeed yet another genocide, but putting that aside, one of the results of that atrocity was major depopulation of Eastern Ukraine and just like with Crimea, re-population of that land with ethnic orcs pretty much right after the hunger ended. Those Ukrainians that were able to get away or survived, were deported and forbidden to come back to their homes and those that tried, were mostly sent to Siberia for life. Around late 1960's the ban was lifted and a lot of eastern Ukrainians were able to come back home, but many werent or didnt. Thus, Eastern Ukraine where "most of the people speak Russian, vote Russian, and are Orthodox Christians" were created. Over time, majority of imported orcs assimilated culturally, but due to suppression of Ukrainian language, large cities retained orcish as their main form of communication. Smaller cities, where re-population happened slower but naturally, didnt and does not have that problem.

So as you can see, the parallel with Catalonia and Spain does not work for either Crimea, nor Eastern Ukraine.
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Now, lets address that orc's comment: yes, I am in Canada and by the looks of it, will be here for next couple of months yet. My recovery is taking longer than expected, but the doc is saying that probably my shoulder should be mostly (there is a decent chance of full recovery) operational by late Autumn. I am not a citizen of Ukraine, so I am free to come and go, so after I got a piece of shrapnel in me, I went back to Canada to take care of that - I did pay my taxes, and plenty of them, in Canada for many years, so might as well get some use out of that money. Rest assured though, once I am healed up, I am going back to my unit and hopefully we'll make plenty more very good russians. If however my injury will prevent me from actively participating in extermination of the invading orcs, I still can be useful by going back to what I was doing from 2014 - providing support and supplied to those who can. You really should've stayed far, far away from us, we will kill every single one of your invading bastards.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: May 06, 2025, 06:05:50 AM »
Should've stayed far, far away from us. No matter. Come orc. We will kill every single one of you invading bastards. We will kill you all. This time around you pay for all. And yes, before you ask, as soon as I am healed up, I am going back at making good russians. We will kill you all.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: April 12, 2024, 06:37:33 AM »
Indeed, JP_Finn, I guess if one sticks around a forum for long enough, some personal info will be known out there :) Born, raised and schooled in Ukraine, family moved to Toronto in 1996 and I've been actively living and working in both countries from late 2000s or thereabouts.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: April 07, 2024, 02:00:32 AM »
Another cruel and bloody year goes by and still we stand, so I might as well keep the post going. Its funny... Sometimes priorities change so dramatically that its completely unpredictable. if someone told me that my major life goal would be to visit a family cemetery and be able to pay my respects to those who went before me, I probably wouldnt conciser that person fully sane. And yet here we are... 

Learn from our mistakes good people of the world. Learn and never, ever let your guard down. Dont let yourself get complacent, this world is full of evil. Be always ready to defend your home and your loved ones. You can always buy new things, new stuff... But if you lose a relative, the only place to visit him or her would be a family cemetery. And that would be if you are lucky and your family nest wouldnt be in occupied territory.

Please be ready. Always be ready yourself and teach your kids.

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Off-topic / Re: Be ready
« on: April 04, 2023, 05:22:06 PM »
Almost a year later.... Well...

My very sincere congratulations on getting into NATO. Well done guys. Really. I wish we had the same chance. No matter, we will get there.

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Off-topic / Be ready
« on: April 24, 2022, 07:23:41 PM »
To all my dear friends in Finland - be ready. Rabid orc is on the loose and you guys are not part of NATO. Threats are being made again and I am sure some of you are taking them seriously, but please be ready.

Yes, we are bleeding rabid orc. Yes, Ukraine WILL stand, but there are quite a lot of them and they have been amassing weapons for last 30+ years. I know that its rather low possibility that the hordes will attack you at this moment, but its not impossible. Be ready.

To all youngsters who might think its just a "thing" and will pass, let me leave you with this wonderful song. Have a listen and make your own conclusions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmb0SeKFrHg

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Слава Україні! Смерть ворогам!

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I just had to go there to read up some of the old stuff - I vaguely recall that after one of my first posts Erkka almost chased me away because we misunderstood eah other about something. Too bad I couldnt find that conversation - would've been fun to see what were we arguing about :)

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General Discussion / Re: Tree sap/syrup in spring?
« on: April 11, 2021, 08:57:17 AM »
Ah! So you guys did make springsap syrup! Its only logical that people did that. Like I said, sugars werent very common and it takes very little effort to spike several trees and collect a dozen or so buckets of sap. Yields might not be super high, but hey, there is plenty of raw sap to go around, so why not? Especially if you take into the account that spring has almost no agricultural work and generally low stocks of food prepared from the harvest.

Speaking of sugars, how commonplace were apiaries, honey and mead in general?

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General Discussion / Re: Tree sap/syrup in spring?
« on: April 09, 2021, 06:21:47 AM »
Ugh.... If maple syrup would be any sweeter, it would no longer be food, but rather an industrial glue.. I get what you saying, but seriously, it almost too sweet as it is. But thats personal opinion, what matters more is the fact that if you'd bump sugar %, then (I think) it would start condensing and eventually transform the syrup into a moist lump.

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