Topic: Animals aggro? Animals can become less scared  (Read 1693 times)


Iago.Hach

« on: June 15, 2018, 03:15:34 PM »
Hi guys!

First, this game is awesome! The only thing I don't like is that the animals that are prey they run away too fast and when in the forest you can't track them down. When you chase an animal they keep a distance, but isn't 50 meters too much?

When you are alone active hunting is too difficult.When you hunt with a dog is too easy... I know it needs to be challenging and that I like, but sometimes if I don't reroll my char until I get speed very high active hunting is nearly impossible..

Suggestions:

>Carnivores should be more aggressive, like a pack of wolves, bears, lynx, even boars are aggressive sometimes. I just don't know in what level of aggressiveness.
>Prey could flee a little, very little less. Or you could see the direction of sound a little more dinamic, because I can see the sound direction in portrait but not in the map.
Something like Project Zomboid zombie detection, you see a transparent zombie when you hear them.


What do you guys think?
This game is great! Keep it up :)


(sorry if bad english, I'm BR)

PALU

« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 08:46:08 PM »
It's possible to endurance hunt prey without a dog even if your character isn't particularly fast (I never use my dog for hunting after a reindeer killed the dog of a previous character). It's fairly hard, and you should be prepared to give up. Tracking is very important, as you often have to follow the tracks to keep up with it.
A very useful trick is to place yourself such that the animal runs back and forth along a river or lake edge until it tires.

See this thread for wolves... https://www.unrealworld.fi/forums/index.php?topic=1749.0

Wild boar and badgers often attack you when injured. Large predators do so as well. However, most animals avoid humans, with the exception of old weak bears that can get over their fears and start to hunt humans because they can't catch anything else. However, those man eaters are currently not in the game.

(So you're Best Regards? ;) I guess it's intended to be interpreted as Brazilian?)

hantu1911

« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2018, 11:14:48 AM »
Certain animal can be very aggressive when they with their young.

Iago.Hach

« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 07:27:39 PM »
It's possible to endurance hunt prey without a dog even if your character isn't particularly fast (I never use my dog for hunting after a reindeer killed the dog of a previous character). It's fairly hard, and you should be prepared to give up. Tracking is very important, as you often have to follow the tracks to keep up with it.
A very useful trick is to place yourself such that the animal runs back and forth along a river or lake edge until it tires.

See this thread for wolves... https://www.unrealworld.fi/forums/index.php?topic=1749.0

Wild boar and badgers often attack you when injured. Large predators do so as well. However, most animals avoid humans, with the exception of old weak bears that can get over their fears and start to hunt humans because they can't catch anything else. However, those man eaters are currently not in the game.

(So you're Best Regards? ;) I guess it's intended to be interpreted as Brazilian?)

When it's not winter bogs and rivers are great for hunting animals near water tiles. But in forests far from water its more difficult. What I'm wondering is that the animals runs like 30-50 meters away, is it real? I know they keep a distance, but I'm not sure how many meters is that in the real...

In my experience I was killed by a lot of bears, but only after I hitted them a lot so they stopped running and attacked me.
On my last run, I was hunting a Njerpz warrior with my dog, he was running away until my dog got him, he killed my dog and killed me next. If I was smarter that day I would wait until he become breathless and started the killing.

If they have the power to kill you, why they don't do so?
A pack of wolves one time killed me, but in one occasion. Aren't the carnivores supposed to be more aggressive? Does Bull Elks and boars attack people who get near them? Also, I have read that it's really rare to an animal to fight until his death when injured.

And Njerpz? bandits attack you, shouldn't Njerpz do the same?

And yes, it brazilian lol :)


Certain animal can be very aggressive when they with their young.
Never saw that. Is it included in the game? Sounds interesting :)

PALU

« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 12:25:02 AM »
Most animals not accustomed to humans are fairly shy, so 50 meters is probably not too much.

I never plan to have my character fight enemies that aren't breathless, although things don't always go according to plan...

Real world bears (and other carnivores) normally avoid people, so often running away even when wounded is probably not a bad simulation.
Animals (excluding cats, which slaughter for the sheer joy of pain and misery) typically kill to eat with as little risk as possible. Humans are dangerous prey that aren't particularly good eating (far too bony).

I know a guy who's been chased by a bull elk twice when out jogging (probably not the same elk). Does that answer your question? ;)

Otherwise females with young are typically a larger danger. Getting in between a bear and her cub is really bad business, and I wouldn't like to get in between a reindeer and it's calf either.
I've seen elks and reindeer with young in the game. Bears and hares should be in there as well, but I haven't seen those.

Bandits don't attack you outright. They rob you, and attack if you resist, but if you hand over your things they'll let you go unharmed. Njerps are bat crazy, and sometimes attack, sometimes not. It feels like they've become more cowardly/gotten a small grain of self preservation in later versions, though.

Nydxz

« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2018, 11:34:01 PM »
 Active hunting is not that difficult without a dog... Keep yourself light, bring only the utterly necessary, broad knife for skinning, your trusty longbow (if you got one) and broadhead arrows (if you have) get into a place where you have clear shot (no trees infront of the animal) and shot the legs (if it's too far away I would recommend the torso) then proceed to follow your prey at walking speed (don't run or hide, that ain't helping you here, only usefull to get the first shot off) you'll not have the problem of losing any prey from view and will not have the problem of tiring, while the animal will.
 Animals described as big are the only problem, because they have so much stamina it's almost impossible to actively hunt one effectively without dogs.

 I miself don't like using dogs to hunt because, in all my attempts to use them, they trashed the hides.
 
 Broadhead arrows are kind of overpowered, since I shot a bear once and he bleed to death in a few turns, not far away from where I shot him.

 Sorry for "reviving" the post (and sorry if my english is bad, am Brazillian too  :) )