Topic: ermines weasels and pine martens  (Read 312 times)


Ara D.

« on: January 20, 2019, 11:55:34 PM »
My Char is not much of a trapper but I was wondering if any one has had luck trapping these small animals. what I've been trying is meat and loop snares after I randomly encounter them but no luck. Any one tried light deadfalls or even paw pawboards with any luck

Acolyte

« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 02:43:14 AM »
Light deadfalls work. Fresh meat as bait - not cooked or processed (ie dried). If you can hit them with a blunt arrow or rock they can also be run down fairly easily.

   - Shane

Tom H

« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 06:34:15 AM »
I've caught a few of these types with pawboards. I came to the conclusion that they're not worth the effort one expends checking traps, etc. No one values the furs and there is little meat from a successful catch.

Ara D.

« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2019, 01:33:35 PM »
Thanks for sharing, that helps. I am still going to take a crack them foor rp reasons ermines actually a very valuable fur in real life.

Saiko Kila

« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 08:55:24 AM »
I had them with light deadfall trap too, with meat bait. I set the trap up after sighting, it's very rare if they fall in it on their own.

Worth of their fur is the same as hare, which is double the squirrel, so not that much. But their value per pound is quite higher, thanks to their small size, although still far cry from values of some high end animals (glutton and lynx especially).

I think the reason ermine furs (products) in real life are expensive is the amount of individual ermine pelts you need to use to make them.
I just checked in one online fur trader the prices of ermine furs, and they are as follow:
- ermine pelt = 13 USD (on sale, reduced from 18 USD)
- ermine pelt second quality = 6 USD
- ermine/weasel brown season (i.e. summer coat) = 10 USD
For comparison:
- arctic fox = 90 USD
- badger (standard) = 90 USD (in URW badger costs twice as much as ermine)
- beaver (standard) = 40 USD (in URW beaver costs 10x more than ermine)
- beaver (black) = 80 USD
- black bear = 460-480 USD (bear in URW is other, bigger species than this one though)
- coyote = 50 USD
- red squirrel (canadian) = 10-13 USD

So it seem ermines aren't individually valued too much in real world too. Of course to make a coat you may need a few hundred of them... But in URW making a clothing item out of expensive fur doesn't make it more expensive. In fact self-made clothes are worth only 20% of original value of standard item, so you are decreasing worth very significantly by using relatively expensive pelt. From the roleplaying perspective though it seems proper - you are a trapper of sorts in the game, not a tailor.