Topic: Lost Ram Quest Question  (Read 5144 times)


caius

« on: May 08, 2018, 07:11:15 PM »
I've gotten a quest to help find a ram that is lost in the forest.  I need some advice and the rest contain spoilers...
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Has anyone had this quest before?  I have 2 weeks to search a fairly large area of spruce mire.  It sounds like i can't see or find this ram except to identify its tracks.  Once I stumble on the tracks, then I perform a spell and I'll be able to find the ram.

How in the world am I supposed to find ram tracks in a large, dense spruce mire?  I've used the tracking skill on the map screen over the entire area and found tracks for a bear, wolves, an eagle owl, and a capercaillie.  Nut no ram tracks.  I've then traveled west-to-east through the mire and didn't fins anything.

Do I need to just perform a search pattern and wander the forest until I stumble upon it?

Do I first need to appease the spirits before I'll find any tracks?



PALU

« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2018, 11:15:06 PM »
Yes, it's the "<domesticated animal> in forest cover" quest.

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This is probably the worst quest of them all, and the only one I've had to give up (not counting early robber quests), though I've been successful a number of times.

If you DO succeed, please note whether the tracks are described as ram tracks or sheep tracks (or even ewe tracks) and, if the latter, send a save to Sami. I've had this quest where the tracks were from the incorrect gender of the animal, and Sami would like to examine such a situation (I didn't have a save available).

It is currently not known whether you "only" have to search the forest parts of the area ("forest cover" indicates it should be the case). There's no verified case of the animal sought being found in open terrain, but absence of proof is not proof of absence...

I've tried using tracking on the zoomed out map, but gave up that as it increased the search time by 50% or so and is very unreliable normally (looking for e.g. Njerps you've seen in the distance, or animals you're chasing).

As you noted, spruce infested terrain is horrible to find anything in, and the tracks definitely don't cover a huge part of the tile they're in, so it's quite possible to pass them by.

The method I've used is my standard technique for finding most area quest targets: zig-zag over the area, zooming into each tile, look forward, look backwards, zoom out, move one tile,... and turn at the edge and advance one line. That takes something like 2-5 days depending on light conditions (and pray for absence of precipitation, as the animation is murder on the eyes when staring intently at the screen looking for faint details for hours! [I'd consider temporarily hack the image file to save my eyes the next time I get this quest]).
However, as noted, that method has failed once.
An alternative method I have used only for terrain boundary quests where the target is in spruce infested terrain is to move along the border on the spruce side such that I can just make out the other terrain to the side. It might be that this method, zig-zagging on the zoomed in map is required to have a good chance of finding the tracks, but that's a very time consuming task for the player (I'm not sure it takes longer or a shorter time for the character). I'm fairly sure it won't give you a 100% chance to see the tracks anyway, as the distance at which you can see tracks is limited, in particular when the light conditions and weather are not ideal.

caius

« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2018, 08:02:08 PM »
I've been searching and I'm running out of time. 
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I went back and re-read all the text and there is a text discrepancy from the quest givers:
  • The original quest giver said he followed the animal 10 km to the NW and then the trail went cold.
  • The sage then said he dreamed the lost animal is 5 km to the NW.
There is a quest circle to the NW.  Do I need to search outside of this circle?


caius

« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2018, 08:29:13 PM »
Here's my search zone...

PALU

« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 12:14:16 AM »
The quest circle should be the correct one, I believe. I've seen the distance discrepancy as well, but have drawn the conclusion that the tracking failed at one location, but the animal has since moved to the quest circle area.

It can also be noted that there is no penalty for failing quests, as far as I know: you just won't get the rewards, but I don't think there are any reputation penalties (again, you might miss out on an improvement).

With that area I'd either give up after visiting all tiles, or perform a new search of only the forest tiles. As I would have visited the tiles using zoom in, look forwards, look backwards, zoom out, I'd try walking through all the tiles instead.