Topic: Skis & Movement  (Read 2790 times)


GrimmSpector

« on: May 29, 2021, 02:26:53 AM »
I'm a bit confused about the benefits, they seem to decrease my speed, though I assume they spend less energy moving from place to place? I mean, they're slower on snow than they are walking on my floor, and I don't know about anyone else, but when I try to walk around on a hard surface without snow in skis, it's quite difficult and not fast at all. Yet my speed in them is the same as without indoors, and faster than skis on snow. So confused.

PALU

« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2021, 09:27:48 AM »
Skiing is going through an overhaul and will be different in the next release.

That said, the current system essentially applies a big penalty in the PC when walking through deep snow and a lesser one when skiing, with no(?) penalty when traveling over terrain without snow, like indoors (since skis are carried in the inventory at their full weight when used, you might consider the game to just have you pick them up and carry them around while on a surface unsuitable for skiing, while still blocking the ability to run).
The main problem with snow is that it's exhausting to travel through it, and it's a lot worse without skis in deep snow. Regardless of whether you're using skis or not, when the snow is deep enough all moves build up fatigue, as opposed to walking when there's no snow, which reduces fatigue.

Also, skiing is a skill, which means that the fatigue reduction from using skis in deep snow is fairly small at low skill levels, but it increases at higher ones (i.e. you can get a lot further before being exhausted at 100% than at 1%).

It's also worth mentioning that these skis aren't the modern sleek plastic things, or even slightly older wooden ones. These old skis were more like snow shoes than modern skis, in that a lot of the time you'd more or less walk with them, gaining the benefit of not sinking down as much into the snow, with occasional cases of actually being able to glide (on ice, crust, or downhill slopes).

JP_Finn

« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2021, 06:36:50 PM »
About the ski design, they were mismatched: Lyly and kalhu. Lyly (from compression pine) was longer, for gliding, nearly 3 meters or 10 feet long. Where kalhu (from birch) was the “kicking ski” still pretty long at around 2 meters or 7 feet. Kicking ski without fur “friction patch” was called ‘sivakka’.
Article in Finnish over at National Museum: Lyly ja kalhu (google translate might work... the article isn’t available in English)

Kalevala even lists the cost of ski stick parts: stick cost an otter hide and the stopper for it cost brown fox’s fur. That’s not cheap!