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BAC Mod Weaving yardage. Now, for balance and sanity reasons this probably shouldn't be changed, but I happen to be a spinner and weaver IRL, and I've some thoughts on the yardage of thread used in weaving.

Weavers calculate the yardage of thread based on several different factors: the length of a given piece of fabric, the width of a given piece of fabric, its sett (how many threads per inch), and lastly shrinkage factor.

Shrinkage comes into play because threads are stretched to have them woven, and when you take them off the loom their elasticity shrinks back in. Normally shrinkage, depending on the fiber, is about 10% (with wool especially).

There's also the header and the foot of the fabric, which is loom waste. You find especially little loom waste with the warp-weighted looms in the BAC mod, and with backstrap looms, so I'm not too concerned about this, but typical loom waste for a rigid heddle loom is about 12 to 18 inches, and loom waste for a jack, countermarch, or counterbalance loom is about 24 to 36 inches.

The sett depends on how thick or thin the threads are. In general most fish yarn (cotton yarn used for warp in Scandinavian rug weaving) weaves up at about 12 ends per inch. So that's 12 threads of warp, + 12 threads of weft, for 24 threads per square inch.

Multiply that by the length and width of a given piece of fabric — let's say we're weaving 2ft by 4ft sections here.

That's 1152 square inches, multiplied by the threads per square inch, + 10 percent for shrinkage. That gives you 2534.4 ft of thread required, without calculating loom waste OR the amount of clothing you need for a garment.

I'm honestly not sure anyone would continue spinning and weaving using BAC if you actually did change the numbers to be accurate to RL weaving, though. But it's just a little curiosity fact stuff that I happen to specialize in.

June 25, 2023, 07:51:09 PM
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Version 3.81 released for Windows In the midst of summer schedule challenges we're hereby releasing version 3.81 first for Windows  and follow with Linux and OS X builds in early august.
Version 3.81 for Windows is available on Steam, Itch.Io and for lifetimers.

This version is mostly about craftable and repairable fishing nets, preliminary introduction of pausable crafting and some bugfixes. Find full changelog at the end of this post, and now let's highlight the most exciting addition...

Craftable and repairable fishing nets

Now it's possible to both craft a net from the scratch, and to repair worn-out nets. These are both pausable tasks allowing you to finish them in parts as you please. This will be the start of featuring a possibility to have breaks in long crafting tasks and continue at will later on. After the mechanics have been developed further this will be expanded to cover wider range of crafting.



        Weaving a net is laborious task and the mere amount of yarn alone may be demanding to obtain. The other material requirements include thicker cordage for the supporting lines, rocks for weights and birch or pine bark for floats. Traditionally the rock weights were sometimes wrapped inside birch-bark pockets for more durable attachment. This is optionally doable in the game as well.



         Making a net is process of several days, and that is why nets were usually woven indoors during the wintertime. For the history and realism sake a good use of written sources along with actually interviewing old net makers were carried out to come up with the many values and mechanics. And still there's a room to add some advanced fishing net care and maintenance features in the future.  It might be interesting for some if we opened up our research and field studies later on, but here's just one curiosity:

There's a tool called netting needle which has been essential in netmaking. It's a tool the player characters can craft in the game as well. In our interviews with a certain old net maker one question was: "We're the nets ever made by hand alone, without a netting needle, and is it even viable?"

    Ville, a real person in real world - an old fisherman - just kept staring for a really, really long time and said "Everyone had their own netting needle."  Other interviewees also confirmed that netting needles were always needed, even when repairing the nets, and during the fishing season people would carry them around just in case. Well, the game mechanics allow netmaking without a netting needle too, but you will only find it impractically slow.


Netting needle.


Changelog

Version 3.81 for Windows
 
** Saved characters from version 3.70-> are compatible with this version. **

- added: craftable fishing net

         It is now possible to make a fishing net by the player character. The option can be found at "Fishing" category in the [M]ake menu.
         Weaving a net is laborious task and the mere amount of yarn alone may be demanding to obtain. The other material requirements include thicker cordage for the supporting lines, rocks for weights and birch or pine bark for floats. Traditionally the rock weights were sometimes wrapped inside birch-bark pockets for more durable attachment. This is optionally doable in the game as well.
         Making a net is process of several days, and that is why nets were usually woven indoors during the wintertime. In the game making a net is newly featured pausable task allowing you to finish it in parts as you please.
     
- added: NETMAKING skill

         Netmaking is a skill for weaving and constructing fishing nets. Success in netmaking determines the quality of the nets crafted. For migrated characters this skill is created upon the first load in this version.

- added: pausable crafting

         In this version we are introducing pausable crafting for a few selected items. This will be the start of featuring a possibility to have breaks in long crafting tasks and continue at will later on. After the mechanics have been developed further this will be expanded to cover wider range of crafting.
         
         Crafts that can be currently paused are:

         * Net

         * Chop felled tree into blocks

         * Split firewood from a block

         * Split a trunk into boards
     
           With the pausable timbercraft options you can now also use unhandy and inferior tools eg. stone-axe in board making as there's no upper limit of how much time can be used to get the work done.

         Pausable crafting works similarly to pausable building. You can cancel the process at will, and then continue at will. The crafting will be continued when you try to make the said item again standing beside the partially finished item. For example, if you try to [M]ake a fishing net beside a partially crafted net the crafting continues.
         Partially crafted items will remain on the ground and can be picked up only after they are finished. They are rendered with a different tint and described as "partially crafted", "half-crafted", "largely crafted" etc. when looking at them.

- added: different tile graphics for a set net

         Tile graphics for a set fishing net is now different resembling its float line on top of the water.

- updated: "Net" game encylopedia (F1) entry

- changed: the weight and price of the net item

         Both have been increased. The weight because of the rock weights taken into account, and the price because of the true workload.

- added: netting needle, a new item

         Netting needle is a wooden tool used to weave fishing nets. It can be crafted by the player character from [M]ake menu "Fishing" category. Netting needle allows weaving the net conveniently with proper knots and tight mesh of uniform size.

- added: repair worn-out nets

          The option to "Repair worn-out net" can be found at "Fishing" category in the [M]ake menu. Repairing a net is also pausable task and can be cancelled and continued at will. To continue paused net repair works the same as continuing paused net crafting; if you use the repair option again beside the partially repaired net the crafting will continue.

- added: harvesting pine bark

         Pine bark can be harvested from big pine trees all-year round. Pine bark chunks are used used in making of net floats.

- added: "Bark" game encylopedia (F1) entry

- added: ball of birch-bark strip as village resource

         Villagers now gather and stock balls of birch-bark strip. These can be then traded for by the player characters if need be. Birch-bark availability in villages is based on the culture, and it naturally gets restocked only when the birch-bark harvesting season is on.

- updated: "Birch-bark" game encylopedia (F1) entry

- added: timbercraft product quantities affected by the used tool, ie. an axe

         When making boards, blocks of wood or firewood you'll get fewer products when using an unhandy axe for the said tasks. The effect is most notable when the axe is far from preferred one, eg. making boards with a stone-axe.

- adjusted: blacksmiths titled as masters always produce masterwork goods

         There was a small skill range where blacksmiths titled as masters produced fine, but not masterwork goods. This has been adjusted so that now masters always produce masterwork goods.

- fixed: using STEALTH from skills menu prompted nothing

         Now it says the skill is automatically used when necessary. That is, when your character gets [h]iding.

- fixed: firemaking failing at fertilized locations

         Fire data couldn't be properly set to locations with fertilization data.

- fixed: some diy/biy descriptions corrupting the material requirement text output

         Adding descriptive texts eg. '+(needed for this and that)' to some diy/biy entries caused text output corruption in the displayed list of required materials. This was noticed with some cordage at least.

- fixed: math failures when using withes (on the ground) in constructions

         There was a rare occasion where using withes on the ground might cause math failures to the number of materials used or required. This was noticed with building a fence gate, but might have occurred elsewhere too.

- fixed: animals leaving droppings far too often after 255 game days

         Yep, it was char<>int kind of mistake in the dropping interval calculations.

- fixed: some encumbrance penalty calculations

         Excess penalty didn't always capped at 100%, and the weight of worn clothes you could carry without penalty wasn't always calculated correctly.

- fixed: making stone arrowheads not allowing using stones on the ground for grinding

 - fixed: wading mode text alignment not centered

 - fixed: repeat the last action display for arrow and bowstring was blank




Cheers!

July 31, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
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Re: [3.80] Community Mod BAC: Smith, Cooking, Survival, Carpentry, Sewing and More!
BAC moves bowls from Utility to Carpentry, check under that.

Oooh lol ty so much :)

August 08, 2023, 12:23:08 AM
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Re: 3.80 (stable) Weird requested trade goods answer I managed to replicate the issue and sent a save to Sami. He's responded that he now understand exactly where the problem is and that it will be fixed, so there shouldn't be a need for others to send him any additional saves.
August 10, 2023, 12:23:14 AM
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Spearfishing, spawning fish, and the lippo Here we go with a brief development news about what's bubbling under at the moment.
Well, a good bunch fishing related additions, we can tell you.
There will be improvements to some old fishing methods and a completely new form of fishing to be featured.
And to have it all done with our desired ambition we'll also feature spawning periods and habitats for the different species of fish.
And these can be then taken advantage of with the old and new fishing forms.
It's quite a sidetracking, snowballing bunch of additions, but slowly coming together so nicely that we can briefly highlight it already.

Now pikes, breams, salmons, trouts and lavarets (at least) will be given their spawning periods and habitats.
Gathering of the spawning fish can be then taken advantage of with suitable fishing means.
For example pikes will come to spawn in early spring at shallow shoreline waters with rich vegetation.
During that time the spearfishing from the shore can be quite succesful.
As we know, spearfishing is already an existing fishing method in the game, but now it will become a bit more detailed for example
with information given related to ongoing spawning periods and the chosen location.


Ingir proceeds with spearfishing and the game notifies about the chosen location being good considering the ongoing pike spawning period.

Lippo is a certain kind of dip net with a very long handle, and it was used in special kind of fishing at rivers and rapids. It is a new fishing tool in the game that
can be crafted by the player character, and it will be used in this newly featured form of fishing.


Ingir has arrived at the rapids with an intention to craft herself a lippo.

Lippo fishing was practised especially when the certain fish, salmons or lavarets for example, gathered at the rivers to spawn.
But lippo can be also used to catch roaming river fish outside their spawning period too. In this fishing method the lippo is casted into the water,
down at the bottom of the river, and then moved carefully in order to scoop the fish into its net. The roaming fish in the rivers and rapids will occasionally
rest beside the rocks and skerries and these are the locations where lippo needs to be used.


Ingir needed to row with a punt to reach a skerry in the rapids. Maybe there are fish resting behind the neighbouring rocks, she thinks and reaches out to pick up the lippo.

These are future features - not yet functional in current version 3.81.

August 31, 2023, 05:26:26 PM
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Re: [3.82] Two problems with kg calculations and labelling i think the 1 unit resolution setting is meant to be a bit fuzzy so that you can imagine you're an iron age guy alone in the woods without a real scale, just eyeballing it that "it's about a lb/kg i guess"
November 26, 2023, 08:56:09 PM
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[Fixed - 3.83] Attempt to haft an invalid target causes target item to disappear I discovered this today by accident and have been able to consistently reproduce it on fresh 3.83 saves. Apologies if this is already known, but I didn't see anything.

Steps to reproduce:
  • Select "Haft a weapon or tool" from the Hafting menu
  • Attempt to haft an invalid item (knife, axe, staff, whatever)
  • Receive an error message stating "Huh? It's not possible to haft [item]!"
  • Check inventory and notice item is now gone
  • Repeat as desired

Expected behavior:

You should receive an error message but the item should not disappear.

March 13, 2024, 01:53:19 AM
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Re: Springs
Will you work on adding brooks and creeks from those springs also?

No, just springs for now.
Brooks and creeks would be a great terrain feature, but that requires kind of a world generator overhaul to have them find meaningful pathways into the larger bodies of water.

April 01, 2024, 05:19:04 PM
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Re: Be ready Indeed, JP_Finn, I guess if one sticks around a forum for long enough, some personal info will be known out there :) Born, raised and schooled in Ukraine, family moved to Toronto in 1996 and I've been actively living and working in both countries from late 2000s or thereabouts.
April 12, 2024, 06:37:33 AM
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[Fixed - persists in 3.83] Duplicated hide with pausable crafting My character Aaro is ready to drop, but he starts tanning a rinsed black-grouse skin on a log. It gets 10% done then pauses because he's so tired.

I move the log away and test whether I can continue tanning. I can't, the log is needed.  So far so good. I decide to leave it alone because I want to test if the partially-crafted hide can rot while it's on the ground in the partially crafted state.

A while later, I notice that I have a rinsed black-grouse skin in my inventory, and there's also still the one on the ground that is in partially-crafted state. I go back through my message log.txt, and it looks like it happened when it cancelled continuing the tanning.

I think there is some logic for returning ingredients to inventory so that they don't disappear if you can't start crafting the item, and it is incorrectly causing the hide to be returned to my inventory, duplicating it.

I have a save available.

Output of grep -a "black grouse" msglog.txt

This shows me first picking it up, and then dropping my whole inventory, showing there's only one rinsed black grouse-skin in my inventory at that time:

Code: [Select]
(575757):h5j0:[_]{01F70065}      | The rinsed black grouse-skin will be ready in half an hour. You may not pick it up yet.
(3C5A98):h5j0:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the rinsed black grouse-skin.
(3C5A98):h5j0:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the rinsed black grouse-skin.
(3C5A98):h5j0:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the 132 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j0:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the 8 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j0:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the black grouse cut.
(3C5A98):h5j1:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the rinsed black grouse-skin.

This part shows that i've started tanning it and don't have any other skins in my inventory:
Code: [Select]
(575757):h5j2:[_]{01F70065}      | The rinsed black grouse-skin here is not ready yet. You may not pick it up.
(3C5A98):h5j2:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the 132 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j2:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the 8 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j2:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the black grouse cut.
(143270):h5j5:[#]{01F70065}      | You see an initially prepared rinsed black grouse-skin (work in progress) here.

here's where i think the duplication happened:
Code: [Select]
(143270):h5j8:[#]{01F70065}      | You continue working on the initially prepared rinsed black grouse-skin.
(575757):h5j8:[_]{01F70065}      | The rinsed black grouse-skin here is not ready yet. You may not pick it up.
(3C5A98):h5j8:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the 132 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j8:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the 8 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):h5j8:[:]{01F70065}      | You pick up the black grouse cut.
(143270):i5j0:[#]{01F70065}      | You see an initially prepared rinsed black grouse-skin (work in progress) here.
(575757):i5j0:[_]{01F70065}      | The rinsed black grouse-skin here is not ready yet. You may not pick it up.
(143270):i5j6:[#]{01F70065}      | You see an initially prepared rinsed black grouse-skin (work in progress) here.
(3C5A98):i5j6:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the rinsed black grouse-skin.
(3C5A98):i5j6:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the 132 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):i5j6:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the 8 black grouse feathers.
(3C5A98):i5j6:[:]{01F70065}      | You drop the black grouse cut.

grep "[h|i]5j" msglog.txt -a shows some more surrounding context, and i5j6 is the first time that i drop my whole inventory after the moment that i think it was duplicated

Code: [Select]
(143270):h5j8:[#]{01F70065}      | Using: HIDEWORKING
(143270):h5j8:[#]{01F70065}      | Hidework option: Tan the skin
(143270):h5j8:[#]{01F70065}      | You continue working on the initially prepared rinsed black grouse-skin.
(143270):h5j8:[#]{01F70065}      | Tanning process now requires you to soften the skin.
(147870):h5j8:[?]{01F70065}      | (1) You need workbench or working surface.
(575757):h5j8:[_]{01F70065}      | (A table, bench or even a big tree trunk will do as a workbench at which manual work is done.)
(147870):h5j8:[?]{01F70065}      | (1) You need workbench or working surface.
(575757):h5j8:[_]{01F70065}      | (A table, bench or even a big tree trunk will do as a workbench at which manual work is done.)
(A80000):h5j8:[!]{01F70065}      | Canceled.
(575757):h5j8:[_]{01F70065}      | The rinsed black grouse-skin here is not ready yet. You may not pick it up.


April 17, 2024, 01:23:00 PM
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