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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? Just finished my trapping for the winter. Now off to trade!


August 08, 2017, 12:03:18 AM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? I have like 8 or 9 spots with 4 to 8 fox traps in each. My primary target was Artic Fox. I also have some deadfalls that where responsible for the animals that are not fox.

As for trading, usually flour, grains, vegetables. I need a proper shovel because my last one was burned in the incident of the first post. And anything else I happen to come by in the masterwork category. And I have already traded a couple of fox furs for a dog.

I found this spot today. A perfect natural platform for diving. Sadly there is no splash sound when you move into water.


August 09, 2017, 01:11:11 AM
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Choose the starting Culture based on skills Here is a short commentary/guide to the starting cultures, based on the simple analysis of the starting skill bonuses/maluses. This should help any beginner looking to make things smoother for themselves.. or harder, if masochistic :)

  • Reemi, Sarto, Kaumo and Kiesse are quite versatile tribes, with bonuses far outweighing the maluses. Good choice for beginners, especially if the right tribe is chosen for a specific play style (eg, choose Sarto for agriculture-related characters, Kaumo for warriors and active hunters, Reemi for trappers and Kiesse for the prototypical woodsman.)
  • Owls have many maluses (which reduces their versatility in using multiple weapons and wood/construction stuff, but also fishing), but are probably the best active hunters (Kaumo is easier to play overall but takes more grinding to raise some important skills). This is your bow-sniper character, able to track down quickly the prey, kill it and produce high-quality hides, as well as identify useful herbs.
  • Seal tribes are not as bad as you would think from their -4. They are the best spear-users, club-users, fishers and "shamans". Their stealth bonus is also good. They make fun (and reality-appropriate) seal-hunters if you don't go the easy way (eg, traps): sneak up, throw your javelin/spear and club to death. I enjoyed playing as one.
  • Driik seem very "poor", but they have the best sword, shield and crossbow bonuses. Most other tribes have maluses there, or at best a zero. They might make for interesting atypical characters.
  • Islanders are the best weather predictors.. which is sadly useless (maybe for some quests? not sure). They can only swim, fish and carve wooden objects better than default, and have plenty of important maluses. More "carpentry" options (eg, fishbone carvery?) might make them more appealing in the future.
  • Kuikka are essentially lesser Owl that can fish very well (like Islanders and Seal-tribe), and carve wooden objects decently. Never got interested in playing as one.
  • Koivulanen.. these are weird. They have good Agriculture, like the Sarto, and also small tracking&trapping bonuses. They have a bonus to the least used weapon, the flail. That's it - however, they also lack significant maluses. Herblore & Physician only. So they make for the real average man, which can be interesting for the expert player.



Source of the above: the ini_skills.txt shipped with the game. I uploaded it on the wiki for easy consultation.

I found the actual file a bit hard to read - a table works much better. Also, I prefer a bonus/malus view (eg, difference compared to the default) instead of the absolute numbers.

It would be great to also have a table for attribute bonuses.. what we have was found empirically a long time ago and I'm not sure how accurate it is.

I find, however, that when planning a character I care more about the skills than the attributes, since I'm a heavy roller to get high values (or I even correct the attributes manually, if I can't be bothered to roll). So it doesn't affect me overmuch.

(URW version 3.4)

August 28, 2017, 04:00:35 PM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? My latest 1st year Islander had a pretty decent set-up with traps and camps spread over three good-sized Islands.  Despite my very poor dodging skills, I had killed a fair number of Njerpez and brigand invaders by attacking them the Islander way - from a boat.  A pack of wolves came to the island of my main encampment, and I was slowly trying to whittle down their numbers when I discovered that a pair of bears were also wandering about.  I set about five different deadfall traps before managing to get first one and then the other.  To mitigate my poor defenses, I had previously obtained a masterwork round shield.  In an effort to maintain the hide quality, I first shot each bear with a single superior broadhead, then closed in with my mace and tried to bring the beast down while hopefully learning to defend myself a bit better.  My poor defenses failed me once during the first fight, and I took a minor clawing to the side.  The second bear managed to immediately bite my neck during the second encounter, causing instant death.  First time in a long while that I've been instakilled (as opposed to a lucky hit causing unconsciousness and subsequent death).  Ah well, just another opportunity to start over :)

Note to self:  Despite the heavy encumbrance penalty, I should still have been wearing the armor I'd previously scavenged from Njerpez.  And maybe it would have been better to keep my shield high.

September 26, 2017, 10:18:37 AM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? 1st year midsummer and I've got my sauna/smokehouse ready on an island in the middle of a lake. The trap fence on the lake shore ha so far netted me a couple of elk and a friggin' WOLF! I'll save that fur until I get better at hideworking and then it'll become an awesome winter hat... I just wish I'd catch more small game so I'd have leather for cords so I could smoke fish. Once the house is done I'll start exploring the network of lakes and rivers spreading running from the seaside inland. It looks like I could use it for travel and cover a larger area with trap fences.

So far I've been lucky, spotted bears and Njerpez before I've stumbled into them. An elk I thought was unconscious in a trap pit and bleeding to death suddenly lashed out and broke my hand but even that healed pretty quick. Soooo.... something horrible is going to happen pretty soon  ::)

September 29, 2017, 01:27:40 PM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? Just conquered a Njerp village (5x warrior, a peasant, two craftsmen, a maiden, a woman, a housewife and a child) and carried away my spoils on Conquest, Victory, Triumph, Honour, Glory and Pride, which are the two bulls and four cows those dead Njerpez certainly need no longer.
October 01, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World? I got into a scuffle with a bunch of pigs out in a bog, all while I had a boat strapped to my back. I don't know why but I found it really funny.

I was on my way to a distant village to see their sage, and the best way to get there is to carry my raft across a wide open bog to a lake, paddle across the lake and then up a river. Well on my way across the mire, I ran into a herd of wild pigs. Seeing an opportunity, I tossed some javelins into the herd, lightly wounding one of them. I spent the next several minutes chasing pigs all over the swampy morass, eventually wounding another one and separating it from the rest of the herd.

I was still carrying the heavy raft during all of this, since I didn't want to drop it and forget where I left it during the chase. My character was tired, and I was trying to line up a killing throw against that isolated, wounded pig. Right at the exact instant I was ready to throw, I took a heavy blow from behind me. It made me jump in my chair. One of the other pigs had separated from the herd, charged me and rammed itself right into my backside! I didn't even know they could do that (I'm still fairly new to this game). It knocked the javelin right out of my hands. It kept attacking me as I frantically pulled out my spear, and it caused a pretty serious injury to my arm along with some minor ones. For a minute I thought I was gonna get torn apart by pigs, but I managed to stab it and it took off running.

I turned around and continued the chase against the other wounded pig, and even though I was injured and over-encumbered, I managed to keep up with it until it had exhausted itself, then finished it off. The mental image I had of my big burly Kaumo guy chasing and getting knocked around by pigs while running through a bog with a boat strapped to his back made me laugh.

October 17, 2017, 06:42:51 AM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World?
I got into a scuffle with a bunch of pigs out in a bog, all while I had a boat strapped to my back. I don't know why but I found it really funny.

I was on my way to a distant village to see their sage, and the best way to get there is to carry my raft across a wide open bog to a lake, paddle across the lake and then up a river. Well on my way across the mire, I ran into a herd of wild pigs. Seeing an opportunity, I tossed some javelins into the herd, lightly wounding one of them. I spent the next several minutes chasing pigs all over the swampy morass, eventually wounding another one and separating it from the rest of the herd.

I was still carrying the heavy raft during all of this, since I didn't want to drop it and forget where I left it during the chase. My character was tired, and I was trying to line up a killing throw against that isolated, wounded pig. Right at the exact instant I was ready to throw, I took a heavy blow from behind me. It made me jump in my chair. One of the other pigs had separated from the herd, charged me and rammed itself right into my backside! I didn't even know they could do that (I'm still fairly new to this game). It knocked the javelin right out of my hands. It kept attacking me as I frantically pulled out my spear, and it caused a pretty serious injury to my arm along with some minor ones. For a minute I thought I was gonna get torn apart by pigs, but I managed to stab it and it took off running.

I turned around and continued the chase against the other wounded pig, and even though I was injured and over-encumbered, I managed to keep up with it until it had exhausted itself, then finished it off. The mental image I had of my big burly Kaumo guy chasing and getting knocked around by pigs while running through a bog with a boat strapped to his back made me laugh.
Thoroughly bored with my 1 year+ Driik huntsman-trapper and yet curiously inspired by your example, I set off to prove my heroism by KILLING a large game animal with a raft.  First I built myself a raft, then tested m skills.  As I could only throw a raft a single tile and I am not quite so masochistic as to try to run something down with only a raft as a weapon, I decided to use a crossbow to injure the animal and THEN run it down.  It took a fair few attempts and a couple lost broadheads to do so as a raft is quite cumbersome, but I eventually crippled a nice, large elk and then ran it down.  Be forewarned, would-be champions of raft combat: A raft makes a thrown rock look like a horrifically deadly weapon.  Thrown rafts evidently can merely scratch a beast, and cannot even penetrate elk-hide over much of an animal's body.  So I spent several hours throwing my raft at the beast.  So herculean were my efforts that the ferocious crippled elk once regained consciousness after an initial downing and started trying to run away again!  It took me many minutes of chase to catch up and thwack it enough times with my raft to bring it down again.  Eventually I decided that the beast's skull was simply too thick and well-armored a target and thereafter went for body shots, hoping to score a lucky strike against thorax or abdomen.  Armed with this knowledge, I finally slew the tasty yet dastardly beast.  But my learning was not yet complete!  For it seems that a full set of armor AND a raft make skinning and butchering such a beast so tiresome that I needed to rest and even sleep several times before I finished.  Fortunately, it seems that raft splinters do not greatly damage animal hides, no matter how severe the beasting.  And that, friends, is my tale.

Now if any animal rights groups come asking, please give them a false name and point them in some other direction, thank you.

October 19, 2017, 01:30:08 AM
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"The Challenge" "The Challenge" is simple:

Survive one winter!

But...

...under rules and terms listed below:

1) Character creation
-Custom
-Random culture
-Winter
-Do not re-roll your stats, go with first generated ones
-Improve any skills you like


2) Map generation
-You are lost, do not look where you start, it has to be random. Best you can do is close your eyes and press "r" for random starting location and then "e" for start.

3) Scenario and game course
-Hurt, helpless, and afraid (and naked, explained later)
-The UnReal World

4) Start
-As I said, you are naked, take all clothes off ("T" then "+" then press space)
-You have nothing with you, drop all items on ground ("d" then "+" then press space)
-Destroy all ("D" and keep confirming discard with Enter button until all is gone)
-Yes, you are naked and have nothing apart of will to survive (and few wounds to heal)

5) Rules
-Do not zoom out with Enter, do not even peek, you are lost, remember? Travel only on zoomed in map
-Do not use big map "F6"
-You can peek on a peak (you can use Enter to take a look around only when standing on top of the mountain but you cannot walk on zoomed out map), you can ignore this rule, but personally I think it's fair to take a look from top of mountain.
-If you get to village by any luck, you can start to travel on zoomed out map
-Survive whole winter
-Have fun!


"The Challenge" is doable, I've done well few times but died of my stupidity in half way through like:
-chased big game and get drown under broken ice
-frozen to death as were not enough lucky to get fire started, should have think about fire earlier
-attacked sleeping Njerpez and get killed - what a nightmare!! ;)

Now I've got new char but it's carving for water and I cannot fine any.
I could give you few tips but I don't want to spoil your experience.

Please post below your stories if you ever dare to try "The Challenge".

Edit:
- do not use mods, you can have them, just don't use them during first winter.

(also edited point4.2 to clearly state that you start with nothing at all)

November 02, 2017, 12:40:47 PM
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Re: What's Going On In Your Unreal World?

Deep in Njerpez territory, beginning of spring, out of healing herbs because I use them a lot. The left eye was stabbed by my own javelin wielded by a child approximately five days before this injury to the right eye, inflicted by a desperate woodsman's hunting knife. Sure wish I'd bought a spectacle helm before I left for the boonies...

Also this is the same character from my badger story, he has yet to be seriously injured anywhere but his eyes, and he's killed exactly 30 Njerps in the last week of in-game time. I'm tracking my data as a kind of census to help establish the range, details thus far in the population thread.

November 08, 2017, 11:14:47 PM
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