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UnReal World => Bug reports => Solved'n'fixed bug reports => Topic started by: Faatal on March 25, 2018, 01:48:26 AM

Title: Extreme Slowdowns, still very much a problem :(
Post by: Faatal on March 25, 2018, 01:48:26 AM
Howdy,

I am running urw 3.50 b2 on win 10. I have fairly cutting edge hardware. i5, nvidia 1070, etc. I am also running the steam version of the game. When zooming in and out of the terrain and world maps, the loading goes VERY slowly. There is also lag when fading in and out of sleep. Tasks take far to long to complete (cutting down a tree etc.). Alt- tabbing seems to have some sort of effect on the framerate. I am running several simple item mods of my own design as well as caethans mod. If you need any other info let me know.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Sami on March 25, 2018, 07:47:36 PM
Dying hard disk is something that might cause slowdowns, or getting low on disk space. In any case these are most often system related things, but we can confirm that pretty easily if you just send the savegame (or download link to) so that I can try it out on my end.

Did it start just recently? Does it happen with only one character, or all of them?
You could also try running urw.exe outside of Steam client to rule it if it's the Windows<>Steam Client interaction slowing things down.



Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on March 25, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
Thanks for the reply. I am away from my PC for the next day or so. But I will get back to you with answers soon.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Sami on March 25, 2018, 08:33:21 PM
Thanks for the reply. I am away from my PC for the next day or so. But I will get back to you with answers soon.

Okay, take your time, no hurries on my end ;)
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on March 27, 2018, 03:07:28 AM
@Sami I can confirm that it is not a disk problem. It also does not appear to be a steam client interaction. Both of these test positively. I havent played the game recently, so it started as soon as I downloaded the new version. It also appears to happen with all characters. By "save game" do you mean the character file titled the character's name?

Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: PALU on March 27, 2018, 08:42:52 AM
Yes, it's the character folder that contains/is the save, so that's what needs to be zipped up.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Sami on March 27, 2018, 08:21:07 PM
Yes, it's the character folder that contains/is the save, so that's what needs to be zipped up.

Alright, so zip it up and e-mail over to me, or provide a download link, and I'll test. Also is it so that it slows down pretty much every time you zoom in / out, or go to sleep? Just figuring out how easy it might be to reproduce.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on March 28, 2018, 04:06:37 AM
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=09317369106248834630

there you are, yes it happens every time I zoom in or out.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Sami on March 28, 2018, 09:20:53 PM
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=09317369106248834630

there you are, yes it happens every time I zoom in or out.

Tried it quickly and no slowdowns on my end. The trial differences are that I'm not using any mods and tried this outside of Steam client. However, mods can't interfere to mere zooming in out speed so that can be ignored. Maybe you could also try running the game executable outside Steam client to make sure is not about that. Otherwise, I can't think of anything else than some crazy hard disk / storage space problems/lagging here.

(Maybe somebody else can also like to double check?)
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Privateer on March 28, 2018, 10:02:53 PM
downloaded and ran in standalone 3.50b2 windows 10.
I don't se any issue; zooming in, zooming out, or moving then zooming in/out

no other suggestion though.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: PALU on March 28, 2018, 10:38:15 PM
Anti virus playing tricks either hogging the memory/disk, or deciding to somehow "verify" everything UrW does? Windows indexing?
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on March 30, 2018, 07:48:39 PM
It's not an AV and there is no reason it would be windows indexing. Everything else on the system runs fine.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Sami on April 02, 2018, 06:04:24 PM
It's not an AV and there is no reason it would be windows indexing. Everything else on the system runs fine.

Quite very odd. And you've tried with new characters, and outside Steam client as well. Some issues with Win10 and Steam in general are known.
And if you don't have UnReal World installed on some completely different disk or storage than everything else in your system then it can't be about the dying/laggy storage either.

Could there be any critical OS or video card drivers pending that would be good to install?
Just out of curiosity you could try running urw.exe in Compatibility mode. (Right click for settings and set compatibility check box on)
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on April 06, 2018, 11:40:42 PM
I will try to run it in compatibility mode. All drivers are up to date.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on August 09, 2018, 04:37:45 AM
I want to say that this cleared itself up. Not sure what the issue was, had a bunch of stuff going on irl and just forgot about this thread. I guess one the intermediate updates fixed the problem.
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Nydxz on August 09, 2018, 05:08:14 PM
I know the problem "fixed" itself, but, If I had to bet, I would say It had something to do with the rare bug of the map maintance routine reloading tiles too often... Ir maybe the game dont having support for multi-threating...
 Nota site about the last.
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 02:20:15 AM
Frustratingly, this bug is back with a vengeance. This time it arose differently though. I was playing normally. Alt tabbed to adjust my music and when I can back the game was slowed to a crawl, laggy as well. I tried: reinstalling with no mods, restarting pc, doing all possible updates to my system, restarting the game. It persists though all of these.
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 02:22:56 AM
Task manager also shows no undue usage of cpu or other resources.
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 02:36:32 AM
Figured it out, if a screenshot is taken using the steam overlay (accidentally in my case) the game slows to a crawl. Solution is not accidentally hitting the f12 key  :)
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 02:46:30 AM
Wrong again it seems. The steam overlay thing was just a coincidence. I'm at a loss.  :'(
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 04:53:47 AM
The bug appears to occur and "fix" itself randomly. An hour after my last post, and the game is working again? This makes me think the problem is associated with a specific process...
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 04:57:08 AM
I quit out of the game to write my last post and the game seems to have broke again. It has nothing to do with the steam DRM. I tried the nonsteam version with the same problem.
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: PALU on December 03, 2018, 09:47:47 AM
Antivirus scanning? Windows indexing (apparently a Very Important Process)?
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 04:28:14 PM
It is not AV interference of any kind. I have done everything in my power to cripple windows's built in av suite. it isn't indexing either as the game performs fine on my laptop running the exact OS. I would think it is a hardware issue, but the game used to work perfectly.
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: PALU on December 03, 2018, 07:38:03 PM
Indexing isn't running continuously, but intermittently. In my case it locks out things like getting the task manager up when its running (there are ways around that).
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 03, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
My laptop indexes with no bad effects, Indexing does not seem to be a problem on the laptop at least?
Title: Re: [System specific, got fixed by itself] Extreme Slowdowns
Post by: Faatal on December 12, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
This is still a problem. ATM the game is unplayable  :'(
Title: Re: Extreme Slowdowns, still very much a problem :(
Post by: Sami on March 17, 2019, 12:11:20 PM
Is this still a thing? It beats me, and there's not much I can do for it - the random nature seems to indicate system/driver specific issues, if we only knew what was that.
It's been reported many times that Win10 & Steam may get to crawling speed after some Win10 upgrades, but as you tried non-steam version as well then it's not that.

Just out of curiosity, have you tried playing without music/sound?