Topic: Nested Submenus?  (Read 6303 times)


« on: September 20, 2023, 07:11:24 PM »

Long time player, first time really delving into mods and things, discovering the ease with which modding can be done.

I have an odd suggestion, one I can't find any other discussion of in searching.

I don't know exactly how Menus and Submenus work in the hard code of the game. Many are hardcoded due to workarounds and requirements of new systems, such as the new arrow creation system. This has, it seems, for many years, caused endless headaches for modders. From an external, modding-only perspective, it looks like Menus are created in menudef_[YourModHere].txt files, and a single layer of Submenus are then defineable in their respective diy/biy text files.

My suggestion is about creating nested submenus. This would likely solve many organisational issues with the otherwise limited menu space.

A nested submenu would simply be some kind of entry into an existing submenu document that isn't a recipe, but instead another submenu. Whether in another text file, or nested in the same file as the ur-menu, submenus would allow for much more organised and less cluttered submenus, especially given the slow increase in content over time in the base game, as well as the nightmarish amounts of menu entries in mods like BAC (spirits protect you if you want to use BAC and some other mods, too!)

Changing the number of displayable menu entries is, I would guess, easier said than done, which would be why it hasn't been done.

Hence, the suggestion: nested submenus.

Even just the ability to nest a single new set of submenus within the existing submenu layer would increase the number of total menu options available to the base game and modders alike, by 25x, or over 15000 new menu entries available to everyone.

Thank you for reading my suggestion. I hope, if nothing else, it inspires some improvement in this wonderful experience of a game.


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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2023, 04:56:07 AM »
biy_ modding is very limited.
But in general, I agree with this suggestion. (maybe you meant cookery_ modding ?

If we get sub menus implemented, that'd hope fully alleviate the linear procedural approach of crafting engine: game should allow for recipes with repeated names vs altered recipe names and then using [NAME:] to get same output of alternative task.
I think we also should have multiple, variable item output(s) of crafts.
Get Boards AND Branches from chopping a trunk... should be moddable.. please?

I'd say we should also put up another "biy_ modding please?" Suggestion to @Sami ...


« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2023, 10:10:03 AM »
Sub-menu aka Tiered-menu aka more menu slots... would also greatly reduce collision with the mega mod BAC when vanilla game updates. I like that he updates his game. It just makes work for those who want to update the large mod. Sometimes Im doing other things then playing yet another round in the Unreal World I have loved and learned so much from.