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More_tribal_interaction:
1) Are fishing rods in iron age historically accurate? What kind of string did they use? Would visible string still result in successful enticement of fish?

2) why issit bait is not req to catch fish when using fishing rod?

3) using nets w/o bait shld result in lower yields...

4) using branches and twigs, we shld be able to make primitive coned shaped fish traps. This is a simple low cost way to do passive fishing, should make it easier to survive the early game. Its relatively straightforward and only req hands to weave. Of course, bait such as berries must be used.

PALU:
1. I believe fishing hooks have been around since the stone age, although I doubt any strings have ever been recovered. Thus, fishing rods should have been available during the iron age.

2. Digging up some worms to use as bait is presumably abstracted. Likewise, small fish caught might be used as bait implicitly as part of the fishing.

3. I didn't think net fishing used bait, generally?

Ara D.:
I could believe that finding bait was part of fishing skill. I always assumed that we were using a lure or lures provided by the fishing pole. And as to the line in the real world it depends on the fish type and how it felt that day. Pike are known to be very uncaring about line visibility. You could probably catch one on a rope. No nets do not need bait they are most likely gill nets. Fish attempt to swim through and get tangled, usually by their gills. That's why we find them dead after two days. Think of it like a bunch of trap fences and pit traps, but for fish

Saiko Kila:
These are some fish which don't give a damn about the lure, they will catch about anything they see (if they see the hook, the will catch the hook, if you attach a leaf or a small stick it will be better). When fishing with fly the fly looks like nothing you can find in nature, its the movement which counts mostly.

But this can be abstracted anyway - most anglers I know use mostly either synthetic lures or something they can catch at the site, like snails or earthworms. They sometimes experiment and make special baits (usually when they are unsuccessful at first), like from potato, or maize, but of course these couldn't be used in ancient Europe... Rice could be used, but not in Finland. Bread and wheat products are considered good baits, too. I think making it too realistic would make too much hassle - for example if you are targetting breams in real life, they like big bait, like several white worms at once, or even a sandwich, and probably won't get caught on something smaller (you will get a roach or similar instead). But in the game, kind of fish caught depends on something else, including apparently supernatural influence.

The anglers do use fishing bait, which I don't know English name for, which is thrown into water BEFORE fishing, and even if they don't want to fish on a particular day. It is used to keep the fish nearby and make them less skittish in future. This uses more baiting substance than actual fishing. But if the engine would support this - I doubt it.

Also - berries? I've never heard about berries used as a bait. And baiting nets is also a technique I'm unaware of.

irontide:

--- Quote from: Saiko Kila on February 05, 2019, 11:25:48 AM ---The anglers do use fishing bait, which I don't know English name for, which is thrown into water BEFORE fishing, and even if they don't want to fish on a particular day. It is used to keep the fish nearby and make them less skittish in future. This uses more baiting substance than actual fishing. But if the engine would support this - I doubt it.
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This is called 'burley' in English. A good source of burley is the guts, etc., of the fish you caught and cleaned yesterday.

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