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« on: May 30, 2025, 06:25:24 PM »
Much against my better judgement (currently rather impaired by an afternoon on the beach drinking large amounts of terrible Spanish lager), I'm going to weigh in on this.
I am English, and when Scotland held a referendum on leaving the UK, I cared not. If they want to go their own way, fine; if not, that's fine, too. Pretty much all the Englishmen I know felt the same.
My wife, and most of my friends and colleagues are Spanish, where we have our own problems with regions wanting to secede. We refuse to allow them a referendum, and I was shocked that the attitude of pretty much every Spaniard I know was that if Cataluna tries to secede, we should send the tanks in and crush the rebel scum. Why? Because the constitution says so, apparently. So this declaration matters enough to get thousands of men killed for it? It seems so.
Ukraine has adopted the Spanish method. Crimea tried to secede in 1995, and Ukraine used the military to force it back in. Even so, they have always voted pro-Russian.
The Donbass is the same. Most of the people speak Russian, vote Russian, and are Orthodox Christians.
In 1999, NATO attacked Serbia for not allowing Kosovo to secede. In Kosovo, most of the people spoke a different language, voted for different political parties and followed a different religion.
I'm pretty sure that the Scots Nationalists lost their referendum because the English didn't try to prevent them being Scottish. Perhaps Ukraine should have followed the English example over the Spanish?
Another example could be that if you allow mass immigration into your territory and fail at integration, you will eventually lose that territory. Fighting for it will only prolong the agony.