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General Discussion / Re: Exploit - overloaded traders
« on: May 09, 2019, 09:02:41 AM »
I tough Foreign traders didn't accept Elk furs.
I haven't had any problems with that (and this is the first time I hear about such a restriction). I've never tried to sell leather to them, but furs have worked well.

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General Discussion / Re: Exploit - overloaded traders
« on: May 08, 2019, 11:49:06 PM »
Hm, that may cause a problem, since jewelry is expensive and hides are heavy (and heavier than armor and weapons as well, value wise). To buy some of the more expensive things I've had to resort to moving up to the trader, cow of burden in tow, offload a sizable part of the cow's inventory onto my character, rooting it in place, and then trade a large pile of (piles of) hides for a couple of trinkets. Unless care is taken, there's a risk traders won't be able to sell their expensive stuff because they can't carry the payment in the only currency they accept, perhaps with the exception of superior hides, but you don't get those that often even with top skill and tools.

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Suggestions / Re: Rules of engagement for adventurers in the wild
« on: May 07, 2019, 11:36:31 PM »
So:
- The PC hires Jurkka to help out with the the village's quest to get rid of a robber band.
- Jurkka drops his axe during the battle and gets killed a bit later (possibly by Osmo, who made a pin cushion out of Jurkka's back during the fight, as the player was too careless/inexperienced to realize ranged NPCs are bad for the group's health).
- The PC pick up all the stuff laying around after the fight and gives Jurkka a fire burial.
- The PC returns to the village and reports that the robbers are all dead, but unfortunately, Jurkka was lost as well (that part is not available in the game).
- The PC tries to get rid of the junk collected, and gets lynched by the villagers for murdering Jurkka.

or:

The PC encounters the dead body of a hunter in the forest (which ought to be a possible outcome of the hunting the more active NPCs are going to engage in), takes farewell of him through a funeral pyre, picks up the items dropped by the body and goes to the nearest village, tries to get rid of the items he's got no use for, and gets a summary execution.

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Suggestions / Re: Rules of engagement for adventurers in the wild
« on: May 06, 2019, 11:41:57 PM »
It won't work because half the times you encounter an NPC in spruce infested forests it's going to be bloody, because you won't see them until your nose bumps into theirs as your round a tree, not to mention zooming in right beside the NPC from the overland map.

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Gameplay questions / Re: Do villagers and livestock respawn?
« on: May 06, 2019, 06:31:18 PM »
As caius said, village populations don't respawn (and that includes both the human and animal population), with the exception of the addition of new people to fill the role of remote quests targets.

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Gameplay questions / Re: What craft skill is it?
« on: May 06, 2019, 06:28:30 PM »
I'm currently on a plodding slow mega project of building a wall (a palisade in my eyes) around my homestead sitting at the outermost edge of the tile to keep undesirable creatures out. The decision to do that came from vagabonds hanging out in the neighborhood and cutting down a huge number of trees in the area, so it's basically a way of cleaning up most of the trunks (half of the logs used come from my previous bear trap defense line).

When done, which probably takes another year, I plan to travel to the top left corner of the map to see what the marker up there is...

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Gameplay questions / Re: What craft skill is it?
« on: May 05, 2019, 07:02:25 PM »
Also note that clothing can never be better than average quality, regardless of the quality of the hide used (which means using Superior hides/leather for clothing is a waste, although it probably does increase the chance of not producing poor quality items). In addition to this, produced item quality is limited by the quality of the source item, so you can not produce high quality bowl, and high quality javelins require high quality staves, which can not be made, only bought (and they're quite rare).

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Nice! Does the "active" cooking means they won't process skins of killed animals, or will they do what I do, i.e. first process the skin and then cook (in my case it's typically dry/smoke, but roasting is plenty good enough for the time being) until the skin is ready for the next step? It's a natural extension of the system (as well as something that would be useful to order companions to do), but might be a bit of a scope bloat currently.

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General Discussion / Re: No f*cking way i would play.
« on: April 28, 2019, 08:37:08 PM »
I believe you can look at enemies and see what position they hold their shield in, and thus aim at an exposed part (most of those shots will fail to hit where they're aimed and get blocked by the shield anyway). A shield is held in a position, so arrows hitting the shield were fired towards a protected body part (even if aimed elsewhere).

I've never seen anyone fire an arrow while holding a shield. If they do it's a bug.

Once they get into range they remove the shield and melee weapon, equip the bow, and fire. If you observe them carefully you can move out of range while they equip the bow (assuming your character isn't fatigued or injured enough to be too slow). Eventually the enemy will run itself into the ground with fatigue. You can then fire at them from outside their attacking range until you hit (takes a lot of arrows!) sufficiently to get them unconscious. You can also move in for a melee kill when they're exhausted, although you take a risk that they'll get a lucky shot in (but you can try to use trees as cover, if present).

If you try to move at a speed above the maximum, it wouldn't be surprising if you're actually capped at the maximum, and if you run you'll tire, and when tired you're running slower and slower, until you're moving slower than you would have while walking (and eventually you're not able to move at all).

I don't know about a previous battle system, but I haven't played longer than a number of years.

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Bug reports / Thin skinned elk calf
« on: April 28, 2019, 11:55:23 AM »
Version 3.52 (stable): I just processed an elk calf, resulting in 179 cuts of meat and a 3 lbs skin. The amount of meat produced is close to what a small adult would provide, but the skin is about 1/7 (and on par with a glutton skin). It's not a serious issue of course, just somewhat surprising.

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Gameplay questions / Re: Question about treasure quest
« on: April 27, 2019, 10:56:10 AM »
There have been issues in the past with map maintenance removing treasure, so it's not impossible. I think it's possible for someone else to stumble upon the treasure and take it as well.

You can't dig on a cliff (rock is hard!), so the treasure is just stuffed down in the crevice (i.e. there's a pile of items on that tile).

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Development News / Re: Who let the dogs out...
« on: April 27, 2019, 01:10:48 AM »
As long as the dogs behave the same with respect to all unfamiliar people encountered in the wild (i.e. including adventurers and woodsmen, not only "bad" humans) I have no problem with dogs alerting their owner at the appearance of someone. I expect it to be possible to train dogs not to go crazy when entering villages too.

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Development News / Re: Who let the dogs out...
« on: April 25, 2019, 08:41:08 PM »
Dogs currently don't react to Njerps unless they aggro, but as far as I've seen they do warn against robbers homing in on you, assuming they detect the robbers. However, dogs sometimes have a very poor situation awareness, failing to detect predators just a few tiles away for several turns.

How would you train a dog to single out Njerps? If they stank of garlic (or something less vile, but readily detectable by a dog) while honest people did not, that might be detectable, but otherwise he'd just be another human going about his business.

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Gameplay questions / Re: Updates
« on: April 25, 2019, 08:29:02 PM »
Work in progress is not released on Steam (either) until it is finished as a new release. At that time I expect Steam to update the game unless there's a setting to explicitly block updates. Sami makes an effort to keep UrW backwards compatible, so unless he explicitly states that a version will break save compatibility, it shouldn't.

There should be no problem copying a save from the free download (+ optional donation) version to the commercial one, and probably not in the other direction either.

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Gameplay questions / Re: Another thing that puzzles me...
« on: April 23, 2019, 10:05:26 AM »
Because the UrW characters are sluggish thinkers who won't react until well after having passed them? ;P

Technically it's because the track report is based on what's in the tile and, I assume, the character's tracking ability, while the zooming uses the standard technique to zoom in to the location where you zoomed out the last time, or some default location if you haven't zoomed out from that tile.

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