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Title: Finding my arrows
Post by: BTA on October 10, 2020, 03:44:40 AM
I pray to the URW Gods on High for a spell and a device (divining rod) and an animal companion command (fetch) to retrieve arrows I shot that landed off in the distance. I love my broadhead arrows and it pains me to think of them lost and alone in the wild, orphaned from all that is good and kind.

and an animal, three "an" in a row
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Privateer on October 10, 2020, 05:43:33 AM
 The standard fix is to color your arrows making them easier to find.
The files in \truetile wp-(whatever arrow).png
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: MrMotorhead on October 11, 2020, 02:45:04 AM
Losing arrows drives me nuts too.  Its one of the things that has lead me to favor hunting (animals) with javelins instead.

In my estimation, it's still easier than finding arrows in the real world.  This is my memory of having a bow as a kid.  I lost many an arrow in the woods near my house.  Thinking back to the UnReal world, it seems like shooting an arrow into a snow covered ground would be nearly impossible to find.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: BTA on October 11, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
The standard fix is to color your arrows making them easier to find.
The files in \truetile wp-(whatever arrow).png

What color is "the standard fix"? That is, what color have people found most effective for finding lost arrows?

I agree with MrMotorhead, real arrows are difficult to find in the real world. But then, In the real world, I would never in my life be hunting large bears or people, but especially not skilled and well equipped warriors with my composite bow and broadhead arrows.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: BTA on October 11, 2020, 05:07:45 PM
The files in \truetile wp-(whatever arrow).png

That does not change the small, thin, dark line image of an arrow on the ground, it only changes the image in my inventory.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: PALU on October 11, 2020, 06:37:23 PM
It does work for me, changing both the inventory and image on the ground. I've got no idea why it won't work for you.

I've made my arrows yellow-orange, leaving the tip and tail with their original color. I've also recolored my javelin. It's a color that tends to be visible even when behind trees, although it matches some mushrooms.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Privateer on October 11, 2020, 07:09:36 PM
The files in \truetile wp-(whatever arrow).png

That does not change the small, thin, dark line image of an arrow on the ground, it only changes the image in my inventory.

I generally color the shaft with 2~3 colors so the stand out against most backgrounds.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: BTA on October 11, 2020, 07:57:03 PM
Merely saving the game, changing the file and reloading was not enough. I had to shutdown URW and reopen URW. The file size of wp-bharrow.png is 34x34 pixels. I looked for images of broadhead arrows online to alter the color of the resized image but decided to get a less detailed image. The result is laughable but effective.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: paulkorotoon on October 11, 2020, 08:23:52 PM
Loosing arrows is one of things that make UrW feel so realistic to me. After all, feeling pain is an important part of playing roguelikes.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: JP_Finn on October 12, 2020, 08:04:44 AM
Loosing arrows is one of things that make UrW feel so realistic to me. After all, feeling pain is an important part of playing roguelikes.

And that’s why I fletch mine with bright red hens and white cock. Wooden shafts.
Or blaze orange hens and bright pink cock feather on the aluminum ones. Never got into carbon-fiber ones.

Almost any grass is a black hole for arrows.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Ara D. on October 12, 2020, 04:04:49 PM
My only grumble about lost arrows is related to large open areas and the top down view. I wish there was some way to get a clue as to how far it flew which I feel is reasonable when in the more treeless maps.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: trowftd on October 12, 2020, 04:46:02 PM
My kind of problem with the arrows is that whenever I fire an arrow to an animal that is at the same level of height with me the arrows seems to fly away a lot. Especially in the mires that don't really have that much trees.

When you think about real life obviously it should be really hard for you to actually find one in the mires but because the arrow buries itself in the ground. I mostly lose my arrows because they fly so far away. I don't know if the arrow bury itself in the game or I am just bad at finding my arrows  ;D
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: BTA on October 13, 2020, 02:31:51 AM
I found my URW arrows 1.5 screens away from where I shot them. I do not shoot at what I can not see, so at the furthest range, I shoot from the middle of the screen to the outer edge of the screen. And, I try to get within half that range with my fine longbow and 90% skill because my goal is to hit what I am shooting at.

Elk are my most common target. Bear are much better for my DIY projects like clothing and food. And, Njerpez warriors will either make me rich or dead. We haven't decided which of the two yet.

That reminds me, I find Njerpez warriors far from their homeland and, when I go there, to their homeland, I see great places to hunt with lots of game and many trees in the forests and llots of coastline. So what motivates tehm to leave home and go all the way to Driik?
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: PALU on October 13, 2020, 10:46:34 AM
Fighting Njerp warriors are likely to make you both rich AND dead, unless you quit while on top, and even then a chance encounter will probably be the end if nothing else has claimed you before that.

What motivated the Njerps?
- Insane xenophobic hatred towards everyone not of their culture.
- Greed&sloth: Why work for a pittance when you can rob your neighbors?
- In fact, as the only true humans, it's both their right and duty to rob and kill the neighbors.
- Might makes right. If I can take it from you it makes it my right to take it.

or any of the other excuses peoples make up to commit genocide and get rich in the process, or just generally murder and plunder.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: paulkorotoon on October 13, 2020, 11:04:43 AM
I'm used to imagine Njerpez are hunting for slaves.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: PALU on October 13, 2020, 02:26:16 PM
I'm used to imagine Njerpez are hunting for slaves.
Killing your would be slaves makes for a very poor success rate...
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: paulkorotoon on October 13, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
Killing your would be slaves makes for a very poor success rate...
Speaking about UrW's lore, I guess the ‘‘Runaway Slave’’ scenario hints that Njerpez do enslave people. It's a bit of a pity they don't do it in gameplay, but hey, that's what imagination is for, I think.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: JP_Finn on October 14, 2020, 07:50:01 AM
Maybe Sami could code in Njerpez knocking out the character instead of always going for the kill. And unlike robbers, character would wake up in far south east of the game world map with all (carried) belongings missing and wearing poor condition ragged clothes only.

(additional voluntary challenge: how many times can one get enslaved by Njerpez AND raze their camp?)
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Sami on December 28, 2020, 09:13:04 PM
I pray to the URW Gods on High for a spell and a device (divining rod) and an animal companion command (fetch) to retrieve arrows I shot that landed off in the distance. I love my broadhead arrows and it pains me to think of them lost and alone in the wild, orphaned from all that is good and kind.

and an animal, three "an" in a row

Hehe, it’s refreshing start in this post :)

It’s archer’s life to spend a lot of time walking around finding their arrows. In the game and in real-life too. Most don’t find it all too fun, but I reckon it adds something to archery in the game too as the shots with precious arrows need more consideration. Will I find it if I shoot now?
Having the dogs as arrow fetchers feels too gamey addition for me.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: jonottawa on December 30, 2020, 05:31:03 AM
Fighting Njerp warriors are likely to make you both rich AND dead, unless you quit while on top, and even then a chance encounter will probably be the end if nothing else has claimed you before that.

What motivated the Njerps?
Perhaps someone misused a pronoun, or forgot to wear their face diaper, or honored their ancestors, or didn't hate their own people enough to suit the Njerp. Hard to say.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Brygun on December 31, 2020, 06:04:16 AM
One moderate thing is that I've had luck with arrows going less far if I was shooting down hill at a target. The arrows seem to hit the ground naturally somewhere close by.

Also, arrows float so firing with a backdrop of water means a little boating/swimming might well find the arrow.

When training at have a backdrop of something to hit, typically one wall of your home becomes the designated pin cushion.

Losing arrows is one of the aspects of UrW I do accept though.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Privateer on December 31, 2020, 06:52:42 AM
The lost arrows are inevitable.. so sad, all alone in the woods.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: JP_Finn on December 31, 2020, 10:02:43 AM
The lost arrows are inevitable.. so sad, all alone in the woods.

Alone? Ha! Never alone... if you rove at any decent frequency... at times it feels like I’m leaving arrow-seeds in the undergrowth.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Brygun on December 31, 2020, 11:25:38 PM
Alone? Ha! Never alone... if you rove at any decent frequency... at times it feels like I’m leaving arrow-seeds in the undergrowth.

We give back iron of knives to the bog from whence ore comes and we give back the wood of arrows back to the forest. It is a respect for the cycle of life to lose arrows.
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: JP_Finn on January 01, 2021, 01:22:38 AM
It's also the aluminum ones that might go back to the spirits...
Title: Re: Finding my arrows
Post by: Brygun on January 01, 2021, 01:38:55 AM
The Great Earth Spirit Al of the Iums thanks you the recognition.