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Title: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: d2shr6o8av on October 18, 2018, 08:30:18 PM
I've been curing every single skin or hide I've had out of fear that it would either rot or degrade.

As the title says, does curing all your skins/hides give you long term protection from rot or degradation, even after you started the tanning process?

How long does it usually take for a skin to degrade and/or rot during the summer?
Title: Re: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: PALU on October 19, 2018, 08:54:11 AM
I've use curing to preserve skins about once... I would expect curing to preserve the skin until you start the tanning process, but once there, I'd expect things to proceed normally.
In the summer skin degrades quickly. I think you can get unlucky and have it degrade even if you process the skin at full speed, but that might be incorrect. I believe I've had cases there my character got too tired to actually start to clean elk skin so that was delayed to the next day, at which time it had degraded one step, but again, I'm not sure.
Tanning an elk skin is usually a 3 day process, with the first day being kill/butcher/clean/tan 1, the second morning being tan 2, and the third day spent performing the final stage.
Delaying any of the steps by a day ought to risk having the skin degrading.
Title: Re: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: d2shr6o8av on October 19, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
I've use curing to preserve skins about once... I would expect curing to preserve the skin until you start the tanning process, but once there, I'd expect things to proceed normally.
Makes sense, but adding my relatively short gameplay time + gut feeling, tells me that the curing protection extends past the tanning process.

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I believe I've had cases there my character got too tired to actually start to clean elk skin so that was delayed to the next day, at which time it had degraded one step, but again, I'm not sure.
What you said, and I don't like to rush/tie myself to my camp for the next 3 days.

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Tanning an elk skin is usually a 3 day process, with the first day being kill/butcher/clean/tan 1, the second morning being tan 2, and the third day spent performing the final stage.
Where do you insert drying/smoking/cooking the meat cuts in your routine?

After taking down a medium/large animal I usually:

Close to home:

Far from home, but close to a village:

Far from home and village:
Title: Re: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: Edico on October 19, 2018, 06:17:41 PM
It seems like food/hides/perishables/only degrade at the turning over of a day (right around morning/latemorning.)  I think if your hide is still in the process of tanning at that time it won't decay, but if it finishes early morning and sits and you don't get to it until late morning, I think it degrades.  Sorry if this is somewhat off topic.
Title: Re: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: PALU on October 19, 2018, 08:06:16 PM
I think Edico is almost correct. I believe there should be a "may" before decay, because there's a chance of decay, not a certainty. You can, for instance, have a stack of roasted meat cuts and a partially eaten one, and see only one decay.

My first priority is tanning, so once while the skin is going through the first and second tanning stages I take care of the meat (and have it stored in a cellar as much as possible). This frequently means I'll start drying of a few batches after starting the first tanning stage, go to sleep, start the second tanning stage, and then take care of the rest. Tanning takes a long time, so there's a fair bit of time to take care of the meat.

I don't hunt far from home. If I see game while on a trip I'll ignore it, as I don't want to be tied down taking care of he food/skin for days. If on my way back I may very occasionally go for some game where I can carry everything back home (which shouldn't be further than the rest of the day away in summer).

If I were to hunt near a village I'd use their sauna to smoke the meat (or build a shelter to dry it, if the season is suitable). I've heard villagers make take some of your smoking meat once it's prepared, but it shouldn't be a substantial loss. My preference is always to dry/smoke meat, saving only as much fresh meat I need for cooking (using the Njerpezit Cooking Mod). Spoiled meat can be used as dog food, as long as it isn't prepared.
Title: Re: Does cured skin or hide retain preservation even after starting tanning process?
Post by: Labtop 215 on October 22, 2018, 06:42:08 AM
From what I can tell, the game advances item age around mid morning somewhere.  Once you begin the tanning process again, the curing wears off and the skin has to be tanned asap.  You should also cure the skin asap if you intend to do that as curing dosn't reset the age, so much as it prevents the age from advancing any further until the process is resumed.