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UnReal World => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jakub-urw on February 16, 2018, 04:42:39 PM
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I’m not going to lie I’m a noob in this game.
In my newest game, I’m playing a normal fisherman that decided to settle down (hobbit style) away from villages. During the summer, I purchased a hunting dog. Brave and fearless companion. And went on a short hunting trip, in a nearby forest west of my wooden hut. There, I encountered a bear. As a new player with javelins as hunting tools I set my dog at him, I mean in the worst situation I’ll loose my dog, hawk, which isn’t a big deal. He managed to kill the bear! I was excited, as it was the first big animal I (well, my dog) killed in game. I thought I could make cord for the winter, arrows, blanket for my bed with all the fur and eat it’s meat until next summer. Through my excitement, I forgot to google how to skin and animal, and butchered it before harvesting the skin. As a new play I though the fur was destroyed by the dog, so i didn’t care as much. With a rope given to me by a villager I smoked some of the meat, cooked a bit for my own use and sold the rest. What did I buy with 80lbs of bear meat?
Reindeer fur.
Yup.
If you’re not following how cringey and stupid my decision is, let me explain. I easily could have harvested and created bear fur from the bear corpse I butchered, but instead, I decided to not only waste all my meat that I could sell for tools and lost all my wealth.
So that’s my short story... I hope I learn from my mistakes xD
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Aw. FYI, there's a new option in 3.50beta that will prevent such things from happening:
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If the option is enabled a confirmation prompt appears if you try to butcher a carcass before skinning it.
This is to avoid accidentally cutting up the whole carcass and losing the skin.
To enable the option add the following line to urw_ini.txt setup file in your installation folder:
[BUTCHER_CONFIRMATION:YES]
I should remember to go turn that on; I've done the same thing with hides before, although never with a bear fur!
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Thank you!
If only I new abut this earlier xS
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The stupidest thing I have done was walk some amount of kilometers from my homestead only to freeze to death in the snow, as I forgot to wear the clothes that I had in my inventory.
Often times I will skip skinning my kills depending on how willing I am to sit down in one area for two weeks to turn it into leather. And also often the meat I take I cook and immediately trade for furs if there is nothing else of value I could want. There will always be next time to get that bear skin (and now skulls!) (:
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Often times I will skip skinning my kills depending on how willing I am to sit down in one area for two weeks to turn it into leather. And also often the meat I take I cook and immediately trade for furs if there is nothing else of value I could want. There will always be next time to get that bear skin (and now skulls!) (:
Careful that the intermediate products of tanning can and will rot. In warm temperature, they rot pretty fast. In winter you might not have noticed.
In case you didn't know it, if you "cure" the skin it will last longer. You can go pick it up later.
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It takes a couple of weeks to de-hair and turn elk skin into leather, which is what I think trento007 referred to.
Now, there aren't that many reasons to do that, as most processes that take leather also accepts hide, but here are a few things that require leather explicitly. I believe on of those is the leather ropes you need to build a raft to get off an island, but in that case you don't have much choice but to stay in the area until you get the means to leave.
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It takes a couple of weeks to de-hair and turn elk skin into leather, which is what I think trento007 referred to.
Now, there aren't that many reasons to do that, as most processes that take leather also accepts hide, but here are a few things that require leather explicitly. I believe on of those is the leather ropes you need to build a raft to get off an island, but in that case you don't have much choice but to stay in the area until you get the means to leave.
You are right, I had somehow missed the last few words of that sentence :D (and misunderstood it anyway.. where's my brain today? :S)
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Rather than wear fur clothing all year round, I think leather is more realistic for the warmer months to avoid drowning in sweat and dying of heatstroke. (Yes, I know that being too hot is not yet modeled in the game, but it will be someday.) So, that's a good enough roleplaying reason to dehair a couple of those larger hides to make a good suit of leather. Just my 2 cents.
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Role playing is a good reason for leather (and purchased "real" clothes). Still, I'd consider using furs to purchase clothing in that case (except for a god pair of leather boots). I tend to have my characters wear a lot of clothing because of the protection value and, as mentioned, neither heat stroke or excessive sweating is a thing yet.
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Don't be this guy:
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The stupidest thing I have done was walk some amount of kilometers from my homestead only to freeze to death in the snow, as I forgot to wear the clothes that I had in my inventory.
Often times I will skip skinning my kills depending on how willing I am to sit down in one area for two weeks to turn it into leather. And also often the meat I take I cook and immediately trade for furs if there is nothing else of value I could want. There will always be next time to get that bear skin (and now skulls!) (:
you take 2 weeks to tan a skin?
on average it takes only 3 days.
day 1: clean + first step.
day 2: rinse
day 3: use the beater on it.
Done.
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The stupidest thing I have done was walk some amount of kilometers from my homestead only to freeze to death in the snow, as I forgot to wear the clothes that I had in my inventory.
Often times I will skip skinning my kills depending on how willing I am to sit down in one area for two weeks to turn it into leather. And also often the meat I take I cook and immediately trade for furs if there is nothing else of value I could want. There will always be next time to get that bear skin (and now skulls!) (:
you take 2 weeks to tan a skin?
on average it takes only 3 days.
day 1: clean + first step.
day 2: rinse
day 3: use the beater on it.
Done.
I think de-hairing takes longer than the other steps. So all together might sum up to a week for big skins.
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I had at one point a stash of cured furs, and since it was the start of winter I decided to work on them all at the same time.. I forgot how long it takes and how tired it makes you.. Basically 4 reindeer and 2 elk furs have gone to waste :(
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My idea is that I can often buy enough furs from the driik villages next to my homes to have stuff to trade with the foreign traders, so most of my kills I turn into leather since it doesn't come from anywhere else. The exception is small game and any skin I feel I can turn into a superior fur. And yes for large game the dehair process alone can take upwards of 12 days which is where I get the 2 weeks from.
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Stupid thing: What about skinning a hazel grouse, find that the skin is harsh, decide that it isn't worth the bother, drop the skin 'D'estroy it, find that there are more things to destroy, abort, pick everything up (as everything carried was dropped together with the bird carcass), drop the skin, destroy it, and then later find that the 50 superior arrows you've put about 1000 hours into making (Buiodda's Craft mod, modded) are missing?
It's not completely catastrophic, as the hundreds of fine arrows produced as a "failures" are still available, so I'll fall back to those, but it's still a heavy blow, and it's a lot better than losing the superior broad knife I've FINALLY managed to make.
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That's not so bad! At least the bear didn't kill you. I lost my last two characters to bears. On my first character, I found a bear, attacked it and it killed me. Now that was pretty stupid. On the next character, a bear walked right into my just-finished, brand-new log cabin and slaughtered me in my bed.
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I agree attacking a bear is stupid (I've done that once, very early on to see if it was a stupid idea and received the answer that yes, it is a stupid idea, so I've never done it since, although characters have been attacked by bears as I've tried to avoid a fight. Bears caught in traps are killed with thrown rocks), but getting attacked is bad luck.
Hm, come to think of it, I actually HAVE attacked a bear with my latest character: I thought closing the door and firing at it through the window would be safe, but I found out bears can open doors (not smash it: open it). Luckily, neither my character nor dog received a scratch, possibly because the arrows had injured it so it kept missing.
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You're not a real Kaumo until you kill a bear in melee 8)
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But my character is Reemi!
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Carry on, then
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The most stupid thing I ever did was kill my dog while trying to lay a killing blow on a badger. I'm not even sure how it happened, I was returning to the village where I've left meat to smoke and in the pine mire on the way I've found a badger, I started chasing it until it was breathless and then I knocked it unconscious and followed with a killing blow, my dog was barking leashed behind me to the best of my knowledge but somehow the blow landed on her, killing her instantly. Shocked, I used the look command over the tile and saw it contained the still unconscious badger and my dead dog.
I can't stand over an unconscious animal but my dog can, or maybe just for small animals that's what I think must be the reason for this.
And this was stupid because badger spoils aren't even that valuable, fur and meat accounted, and my big (actual size description, her name was Nala) dog had helped me take down two bears unscathed and will continue to do so in the form of mittens which is a poor consolation :(.
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I've seen robbers and hirelings stand over unconscious humans, both opponents and from their own side.
If it's any consolation, it's not unheard of to keep mashing attacks at unconscious animals until there is a report there's nothing to attack, to find both a dead quarry and a dead dog there...
In your case, the badger is considered a predator, and dogs attack predators if they can (damaging their skin), so I assume the dog managed to get on top of the target while attacking, somehow. This is especially probable if your character was heavily loaded and had built up a considerable fatigue from bashing the badger, as your actions will be quite slow, and the dog may be capable of performing several actions for each of yours. However, I'm not aware of targets moving while the attack is under way (moving while performing the double action of loading an arrow and firing it doesn't count: explicitly equip the arrow first and then fire unless you're completely sure friendlies can't get in the way and the target can't get behind cover (or reach you)).
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Sympathies for your poor dog. I have had the same sort of thing happen to me while I was trying to finish off an unconscious bear. I cracked my dog over the head with the blunt (thankfully) end of the spear and fractured his skull. It was nearly a disaster because he turned on me and tried to savage me. Luckily he calmed down after I dodged.
In the future I think I'll be tying my dogs up when I close in for a killing blow on a down opponent.
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I drowned trying to crawl back on the ice over and over while having a punt in my inventory...
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Sympathies for your poor dog. I have had the same sort of thing happen to me while I was trying to finish off an unconscious bear. I cracked my dog over the head with the blunt (thankfully) end of the spear and fractured his skull. It was nearly a disaster because he turned on me and tried to savage me. Luckily he calmed down after I dodged.
In the future I think I'll be tying my dogs up when I close in for a killing blow on a down opponent.
You only need to tie up your dogs with predators or when you keep them starving. In the first case they'll attack the predator (harming the skin, but possibly preserving yours), while in the second they will eat a fresh kill (again harming the skin).
I drowned trying to crawl back on the ice over and over while having a punt in my inventory...
I don't think the punt would actually help, but shedding weight from the inventory surely does. And once you manage to get up onto the ice you may be able to get into the punt to smash yourself to the shore (but crawling, abandoning the punt, might be better, as it's probably faster, and you need to get a warming fire going soon, unless your character has really warm clothing (which, again, contributes to your encumbrance, so it might help once you actually get out of the water, but it will hinder you from actually getting out...).