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PALU:
I believe you missed the Saami language(s) [linguists can fight forever over whether it's one, three, four or some other number of languages and how many dialects there are] when listing languages related to Finnish.

JP_Finn:
Yes indeed. But are sámi languages fenno-permian and under wider Uralic group, no? It’s been decades since I actively studied languages. But I’d recall the sámi (9 languages IIRC) to been split, at least taxonomically, from fenno-ugrian around 2500BCE.

No, I’m not a professional linguist. Just a geek.

katlivon665:
 :D

Plotinus:

--- Quote from: JP_Finn on January 18, 2021, 02:03:56 AM ---I find it entertaining that he uses very formal pronunciation.

Yeah, as PALU wrote, Finnish isn't indo-european (so not Germanic, nor Romance, nor Celtic), but Uralic/Fenno-Ugrian(F-U, hehe, excludes samojedic languages). There's very few languages in the group: Finnish, Estonian, Magyar (Hungarian), and some tribes in Siberia(most of these fall in the Uralic group). Of the above, Finnish and Estonian share some vocabulary, but not fluently. Similarly to French and Italian, or Spanish. Finnish and Magyar, have even less common words. After going through a long, long time with a Hungarian friend, only reasonably close match is Finnish "pusu”, Hungarian "puszi”. In English a little kiss, a peck

So to understand Finnish, you need to know Finnish or to get mainline idea what someone is saying in Finnish, one needs to be native Estonian speaker.

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kéz - käsi, négy - neljä, víz - vesi

There's some patterns, too, like Hungarian "h" is often "k" in Finnish: hal - kala, hajó - koivu, holló - korpi, hold (moon)/hó (month) - kuu, három - kolme

But you have to already know the connection is there to see it. The way I tell if somebody is speaking Finnish is that it takes me a minute to notice that I can't understand a word I'm hearing -- I don't notice sooner because the cadence is very similar to Hungarian, and the vowel : consonant ratio is the same too, so it creates an illusion that if I were to pay attention then I would understand.

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